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Jerry Richardson called me this morning! Not a joke

DOUBLETROUBLE33

By DOUBLETROUBLE33,
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I'm frankly a little shocked at how easily you all are believing this.

You REALLY think Jerry Richardson would casually be badmouthing Jerry Jones to a random fan? Knowing how he operates, does that sound like something he would do? You also think he would admit that he was the one making the personnel decisions now rather than Marty Hurney by his supposed statement about "going young"?

Talk about gullible...

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I'm frankly a little shocked at how easily you all are believing this.

You REALLY think Jerry Richardson would casually be badmouthing Jerry Jones to a random fan? Knowing how he operates, does that sound like something he would do? You also think he would admit that he was the one making the personnel decisions now rather than Marty Hurney by his supposed statement about "going young"?

Talk about gullible...

The second coming of Sam Mills Fan??

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lightsout Grand Master

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Your team is crap and in complete shambles. Rather than call your head coach into your office and chew him out or have a meeting with players to try and tell them that it'll be ok long term, you call a random know-nothing fan (no disrespect intended OP) and give him your mission statement.

I no longer wonder why my favorite sports franchise is currently in the toilet.

Is that you Foxy? It's ok, you already said it, we know it isn't your fault. :thumbsup:

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What I don't understand is that, if this is true, why any of you find it comforting. You feel better now knowing that, faced with a potential year of no football at all, your team's owner says screw it we might as well give up on this year too. Meanwhile other teams around the league are doing everything that they can to make a run at the superbowl this year. We've seen the Bears drastically overpay Peppers, Moss return to Minnesota, the Redskins bring in #5, Bill Parcells sign the a troublesome Brandon Marshall, and Ozzie Newsome get himself a damn probowl receiving core. Not to mention that every single American with a TV set knows everything the Jets have done. How many other teams in the league have decided to do what we did?

The worst part about this is the way the draft was handled knowing that the gameplan going into this year was "well I'm sure we wont be the worst team..." Knowing you do not have a first round pick this year and would likely have a decent one in the next draft, you decide to take a QB with question marks in the 2nd round. Rather than seeing what you had in the guy on the roster that you had already named your starter and paid accordingly, you use your highest pick in the draft to take a guy that every other team had passed on. Even if Moore did play the way he ended up doing, it's not like you were planning on contending anyway and you could hopefully more adequately address the QB position in your next draft with a high first round pick.

Then, AGAIN knowing we would probably have a decent 2nd round pick next draft, we decide to trade THAT pick away for a QB from Appalachian State who can maybe play WR and maybe catch a punt because, let's face it, we've seen him throw pretty well in the FCS.

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Maybe instead of calling a few pissed off fans here and there, JR should call Fox and tell him to start the QB he drafted for what is going to be a higher price than the guy that's in there now. Oh wait, he's returning punts now? Oh, he couldn't catch a punt so now he's playing wide receiever? Wow, I would have never thought of that. I guess that's why they make the big bucks.

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Maybe instead of calling a few pissed off fans here and there, JR should call Fox and tell him to start the QB he drafted for what is going to be a higher price than the guy that's in there now. Oh wait, he's returning punts now? Oh, he couldn't catch a punt so now he's playing wide receiever? Wow, I would have never thought of that. I guess that's why they make the big bucks.

uh what?

is this a "start AE" post?

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how do you figure...? AE is clearly a pick made as a future investment in someone they thought had great talent. Taking him indicates a desire to develop him, which fits right in with the "building the team through the draft" and "going with young, talented players".

I still don't follow your logic. Ok, so "we handled the draft poorly." I would agree trading that pick sucked, but hey, it happens. How exactly does that lead to "call Fox and start him"? If the pick was that bad, why would you want him starting?

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how do you figure...? AE is clearly a pick made as a future investment in someone they thought had great talent. Taking him indicates a desire to develop him, which fits right in with the "building the team through the draft" and "going with young, talented players".

I still don't follow your logic. Ok, so "we handled the draft poorly." I would agree trading that pick sucked, but hey, it happens. How exactly does that lead to "call Fox and start him"? If the pick was that bad, why would you want him starting?

I think you missed the sarcasm in that post. I was getting more at the stupidity of the Clausen pick relative to the fact that we drafted a guy who played QB in college at a price that will likely be higher than the Clausen pick.

As I mentioned a few posts back, the problem with the Clausen pick was that we used our highest pick in the draft to take a guy with question marks that every other team had passed on. That's fine and all if you think he has potential or whatever, however we already had a guy on our roster that at the time was our fully-supported starter going into the season. Knowing that we weren't seriously planning on contending this year, why not give Moore the reigns and see how it shakes out. The best case scenario, he pans out and you've also addressed another of your teams many concerns with a 2nd round pick. The worst case scenario, he flops and you end up with a high first round pick in the next draft that you can use to legitimately address your QB concerns. Oh, and guess what, you still addressed an additional concern with a 2nd round pick!

The problem with the Armanti pick is that, again knowing that we weren't seriously planning on contending, we traded away a pick that we were well aware was likely to end up higher than anything we had in this years draft. On top of that, we did it for a guy we want to play wide receiever who played QB in college at Appalachian State. I'm not sure that drafting FCS convertable projects high in the second round is the best way to "build your team through the draft".

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