E Brown, A Edwards, J Otah

[Doyle]

How do you figure Otah was not worth what we gave up?

I can see a point for Brown and Edwards, but Otah??

Because of his injuries only. I think he is a great player.

[Baschski]

Otah is legit poo. Still too early to pass judgment on Brown and Edwards. Remember how long it took Thomas Davis and Deangelo Williams to emerge?

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Three two one; one two three. What the heck is bothering me?

[uncpanther]

Remove Otah and you have a point. This trading next years pick for this year has bit us in the ass too many times. The Armanti trade will go down as Fox's biggest boneheaded move while he was still the coach. That is going to be a high second round pick we need badly.

[PantherBrew]

Yeah, cause we KNOW Armanti is a bust and sucks.

Some of y'all are fugtarded.

[uncpanther]

Yeah, cause we KNOW Armanti is a bust and sucks.

Some of y'all are f**ktarded.

Didn't say he was a bust just that it was a boneheaded pick, we gave way too much for him and he is a project. A BIG project.

[PantherBrew]

If Armanti turns into a starting receiver is it a boneheaded pick?

Do you KNOW that he will? Do I KNOW he wont?

until then, it is an unknown.... not a boneheaded pick, yet.

I am all for judging picks and calling them good or bad, but lets judge players who have played for a few seasons before judging whether it was a good pick or bad.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

If we spend a 1st round pick on a guy that's never played football in his life is that a bad pick? What about if eventually, through a couple years of development, he turns into a good player?

It's a bad trade/pick because AE is such a huge project and you just don't use the 33rd-35th overall pick on that big of a project. You just don't, regardless of how it ends up.

And I'm not anywhere near close to giving up on AE, I hope he works out.

[uncpanther]

If Armanti turns into a starting receiver is it a boneheaded pick?

Do you KNOW that he will? Do I KNOW he wont?

until then, it is an unknown.... not a boneheaded pick, yet.

I am all for judging picks and calling them good or bad, but lets judge players who have played for a few seasons before judging whether it was a good pick or bad.

If he turns out to be the next Steve Smith I will eat my words but from what I have seen he is going to take a while to develop. You don't trade away second round picks for a player that is going to take a while to contribute. For what we have given up we should have a starting player on the field right now. It was a boneheaded pick and 90% of the non Armanti homers on the board will agree. If he were taken in a later round with no picks given up then I could deal with that.

[PantherBrew]

Just a difference in opinion... I am more of the 'wait and see before I criticize'.

Everyones different

[Doyle]

Holy Chile miners.

[uncpanther]

Just a difference in opinion... I am more of the 'wait and see before I criticize'.

Everyones different

I will say I hope he turns out to be something special, we shall see.

[Jrock3016]

Just a difference in opinion... I am more of the 'wait and see before I criticize'.

Everyones different

I am too. Everyone on this board thinks they are an expert. In reality, no one knows anything. And the majority of the stuff on this board is wrong or don't come true. Hell the league taught Brad Smith how to play the position. Hines Ward too... In fact there is a list of guys that made the transition. So why come up here and bitch about the unknown?

[Ruff]

I am too. Everyone on this board thinks they are an expert. In reality, no one knows anything. And the majority of the stuff on this board is wrong or don't come true. Hell the league taught Brad Smith how to play the position. Hines Ward too... In fact there is a list of guys that made the transition. So why come up here and bitch about the unknown?

Um, Hines Ward was always a receiver...