The better question: How can anyone justify Clausen over Moore?

[Carl Spackler]

Only play Clausen has made was during his standard scramble.....and a busted play where NO gave us a charity play. Not impressive at all.

that 4th down play to Gettis doesn't mean anything. Clausen gave us no chance....see what occured after that.

Both plays are examples of why Clausen stinks. That is what David Carr does. Bails on plays and looks to throw on a scramble. That isn't running this offense. He ain't ready.

Five-step drop and sitting in the pocket til a sack is "running this offense?" Oh, OK. By all means then Moore is better.

Screw this garbage, you're going to point out why you think Clausen sucks no matter what I say and what facts I use and I'm going to point out why I think Moore sucks. Just treading water now.

[CRA]

Five-step drop and sitting in the pocket til a sack is "running this offense?" Oh, OK. By all means then Moore is better.

Screw this garbage, you're going to point out why you think Clausen sucks no matter what I say and what facts I use and I'm going to point out why I think Moore sucks. Just treading water now.

Clausen simply does suck. Saying Clausen sucks doesn't mean Moore doesn't. Clausen simply sucks worse. Matt Moore at least understands what needs to be done....he just hasn't been able to execute. That is what Moore doesn't suck as bad as Clausen.

Sorry, but that is what it is. Moore sucks. Clausen sucks even worse. Now you can argue why a QB who sucks worse should start and that could be the right call.....but Clausen is not better. Lightning might strike some people if they aren't careful around here.

I bet Colt goes up against Pitt and shows a few more flashes than Clausen has thus far. Clausen looks like an undrafted rookie FA....but a bad one...not a 07 Moore one.

[Dorian Gray]

Having to actually argue who is worse between a fourth-year player and a rookie who has only played in 3 games should pretty much determine which QB should get the snaps.

[Nicbsbll2]

Clausen simply does suck. Saying Clausen sucks doesn't mean Moore doesn't. Clausen simply sucks worse. Matt Moore at least understands what needs to be done....he just hasn't been able to execute. That is what Moore doesn't suck as bad as Clausen.

Sorry, but that is what it is. Moore sucks. Clausen sucks even worse. Now you can argue why a QB who sucks worse should start and that could be the right call.....but Clausen is not better. Lightning might strike some people if they aren't careful around here.

I bet Colt goes up against Pitt and shows a few more flashes than Clausen has thus far. Clausen looks like an undrafted rookie FA....but a bad one...not a 07 Moore one.

Did you actually watch the first two games of the season?

[CRA]

Did you actually watch the first two games of the season?

Moore was horrific week 1. We all know that. He was then pulled from a winnable game in week 2. That is what I watched. Moore should not have been pulled in that week 2 game.

a blunder by the coaching staff is what I see. Have you not watched Moore's entire career....Clausen is not better than that. Clausen has not even hinted he is better than that.

[Carl Spackler]

Moore was horrific week 1. We all know that. He was then pulled from a winnable game in week 2. That is what I watched. Moore should not have been pulled in that week 2 game.

a blunder by the coaching staff is what I see. Have you not watched Moore's entire career....Clausen is not better than that. Clausen has not even hinted he is better than that.

He has several times and you continually ignore that.

[Millions]

And as a 4 year guy with all those wins under his resume, outplaying Jake etc. When this has been Moore's team Moore has clearly not been a better QB than a rookie who you all claim is a "project". Moore has peaked as a player imo he is what he is.

JC is a rookie that many wasn't expecting to see come in and be OROY we just want to see promise from him week to week. Everyone can see he's struggling (even supporters) but to act like he hasn't shown a few flashes in preseason and in the regular season so far is really blind. Like you all claim us to be when we can point out he's struggling but he's a rook. You all must be expecting more from him NOW than the JC "supporters" with how you all act.

[CRA]

And as a 4 year guy with all those wins under his resume, outplaying Jake etc. When this has been Moore's team Moore has clearly not been a better QB than a rookie who you all claim is a "project". Moore has peaked as a player imo he is what he is.

JC is a rookie that many wasn't expecting to see come in and be OROY we just want to see promise from him week to week. Everyone can see he's struggling (even supporters) but to act like he hasn't shown a few flashes in preseason and in the regular season so far is really blind. Like you all claim us to be when we can point out he's struggling but he's a rook. You all must be expecting more from him NOW than the JC "supporters" with how you all act.

and again, your arguement is basing everything off of 1 game from Moore.

Carolina messed up in handling there QB position to start of the year. That is all we know. Moore was pulled in week 2 when he should not of been.

[Sloth]

and again, your arguement is basing everything off of 1 game from Moore.

Carolina messed up in handling there QB position to start of the year. That is all we know. Moore was pulled in week 2 when he should not of been.

So you wouldn't classify Moore's game vs Tampa as bad?

6/16 - 125 yards - 37.5 CMP% - 1 TD - 1 INT

His TD came on a 5 yard pass to Smith who did the rest with YAC.

They pulled Moore because he wasn't winning us the game.

[Put_It_In]

and again, your arguement is basing everything off of 1 game from Moore.

Carolina messed up in handling there QB position to start of the year. That is all we know. Moore was pulled in week 2 when he should not of been.

lol he has played 8 quarters this season sorry. moore was pulling the the 4th quarter after he prove he couldnt win. so, please stop making stuff up to make it seem that Moore wasnt given a fair shot cause he was.

[CRA]

So you wouldn't classify Moore's game vs Tampa as bad?

6/16 - 125 yards - 37.5 CMP% - 1 TD - 1 INT

His TD came on a 5 yard pass to Smith who did the rest with YAC.

They pulled Moore because he wasn't winning us the game.

I am saying the game was unfinished. Fox literally claimed a winnable game was not winnable.

Fox should have stuck w/ Moore. QBs go through rough spots. QBs can also have nice 4th quarters to make up for shotty play early. We have seen Moore do that before as well.

[CRA]

lol he has played 8 quarters this season sorry. moore was pulling the the 4th quarter after he prove he couldnt win. so, please stop making stuff up to make it seem that Moore wasnt given a fair shot cause he was.

Wrong. Moore has proven he can win. Moore played like ass week 1. You don't pull Moore week 2 in that scenario. You don't pull a QB b/c of 5 quarters of bad play that had shown what Moore had.......you don't pull a QB that has 5 bad quarters of play, had shown what Moore had, and was quietly becoming a leader on this team.

He wasn't given a shot. Fox and company messed up. Maybe he would continued to spiral downward....but Fox clearly messed up.

[Sloth]

I am saying the game was unfinished. Fox literally claimed a winnable game was not winnable.

Fox should have stuck w/ Moore. QBs go through rough spots. QBs can also have nice 4th quarters to make up for shotty play early. We have seen Moore do that before as well.

Right. I guess the point I'm arguing is when you say Moore was yanked after one bad game.. that simply isn't the case. He was yanked after two of them. Clausen had us in the Saints game, but would you classify that as a good performance?

I'm not even sure who should start anymore, but Moore and Clausen are a push right now in terms of performance and W/L results.. and one's a rookie.

[MadHatter]

I think that both Clausen and Moore give us about the same chance of winning this season....slim.

Therefore, you make the choice of you you think is your long-term answer and go with him