The better question: How can anyone justify Clausen over Moore?

[koolkatluke]

He won some games and played on a worse team. Jimmy has yet to win a game or show promise.

Not that this matters at all but Russell was also the #1 pick and had more raw talent than Clausen in terms of arm strength etc.

Stop dude stop you now look like a F'n moron or a pure hater of jimmy clausen. Please showed me the # and the wins Jamarcuss had in his 1st 3 games. Because Jimmy only played 3 GAMES so you can only compare 3 games. Not 3 season of bad play by Russel. Not to mention the fact he GOT CUT IN THE PRESEASON FOR ANOTHER 1st ROUND BUST JASON Cambell. Before you hate on jimmy like this can he play more then 3 games?

[TheSaint]

Looked better than Jimmy. To be honest

[TheSaint]

Why does it take somebody from another team to understand this poo???

Not the the Matt Moore sucks thing or delusional Carolina Fan thing f u for that aint fan.

But the rest of the stuff is spot on.

No, i was correct on all points.

Who will Moore be starting for next year? No one. unless its Ottawa or Calgary, but i dont think they are that desperate.

[TheRealDeal]

Game 1: L 34-17 (Already put up more points than Jimmy as in a single game) 23/31 74% 224 yds 7.2 avg 1 TD 1 INT (Already better than anything Jimmy has done)

Game 2: L 41-14 17/26 65% 1809 yds 6.9 avg 2 TD 0 INT

Game 3: W 23-8 6/17 35% 55 yds 3.2 avg 0TD 0 INT

So he outplayed Jimmy twice and played a very Jimmy-esque game once but won.

"But you guys are being so mean to Jimmy with all the facts and stuff, why can't you just watch ESPN and believe what they tell you........He is the future I promise"

Straight facts homie!

[koolkatluke]

Game 1: L 34-17 (Already put up more points than Jimmy as in a single game) 23/31 74% 224 yds 7.2 avg 1 TD 1 INT (Already better than anything Jimmy has done)

Game 2: L 41-14 17/26 65% 1809 yds 6.9 avg 2 TD 0 INT

Game 3: W 23-8 6/17 35% 55 yds 3.2 avg 0TD 0 INT

So he outplayed Jimmy twice and played a very Jimmy-esque game once but won.

"But you guys are being so mean to Jimmy with all the facts and stuff, why can't you just watch ESPN and believe what they tell you........He is the future I promise"

Game Log 2007 DeMarcus Russel

-- PASSING -- -- RUSHING --

WEEK OPP RESULT CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD

1 DET L 36-21 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

2 @DEN L 23-20 (OT) Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

3 CLE W 26-24 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

4 @MIA W 35-17 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

5 Bye Week

6 @SD L 28-14 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

7 KC L 12-10 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

8 @TEN L 13-9 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

9 HOU L 24-17 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

10 CHI L 17-6 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

11 @MIN L 29-22 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

12 @KC W 20-17 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

13 DEN W 34-20 4 7 56 57.1 8.00 20 0 0 0.0 83.0 3 4 1.3 4 0

14 @GB L 38-7 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

15 IND L 21-14 2 5 10 40.0 2.00 6 0 0 0.0 47.9 0 0 0.0 0 0

16 @JAC L 49-11 7 23 83 30.4 3.61 19 1 3 2.0 17.4 2 0 0.0 7 0

17 SD L 30-17 23 31 224 74.2 7.23 32 1 1 4.0 91.3 0 0 0.0 0 0 Straight facts homie!

Boy are you a lair rookie year 1st 4 games played 36comp. -66att. 2td-4int's and 373 passing.

He was drafted in 2007 so trying to give him 2 offseason and using his 2008 stats is cheating.

[TheSaint]

Clausen is a fuging rookie you morons!

[TheRealDeal]

I used Russells first 3 starts just like you told me. One of them was the end of 2007 and the other two were 2008. I was just doing as you asked.

I am a lair? Am I some sort of hide out for an evil villain?

[Jangler]

If I could post a picture a poo in a toilet I would.

[koolkatluke]

I used Russells first 3 starts just like you told me. One of them was the end of 2007 and the other two were 2008. I was just doing as you asked.

I am a lair? Am I some sort of hide out for an evil villain?

Lair damn I just saw that good catch. But you don't think given Russell 2 offseason and a full season of work is alittle bit of a unfair advantage to compare stats? Just asking.

[TheRealDeal]

Sir you said Clausen only has had three games (which isn't true so I'm assuming you meant starts) and wanted me to compare Russell's first three games. I just give facts, you can choose to interpret them however you want.

I think the point of the discussion was that Russell showed flashes early that's all. Take it as you want.

[koolkatluke]

Sir you said Clausen only has had three games (which isn't true so I'm assuming you meant starts) and wanted me to compare Russell's first three games. I just give facts, you can choose to interpret them however you want.

I think the point of the discussion was that Russell showed flashes early that's all. Take it as you want.

No sir what you did was not use the 3 games at the end of his rookie year (where he got alot of the snaps) and tried to use games after he had been their a 1year and a half. What I said was Rookie year stats. The games he played in 2008-2009 season wouldn't be his Rookie year would they?

[Swan]

No sir what you did was not use the 3 games at the end of his rookie year (where he got alot of the snaps) and tried to use games after he had been their a 1year and a half. What I said was Rookie year stats. The games he played in 2008-2009 season wouldn't be his Rookie year would they?

You asked for starts. He told you Russell's first three starts.

[PantherFanForLife]

Still going I see. I created the new Energizer Bunny of the CH boards.

At least I hope more people got a chance to see Matt Moore's starting stats and realize he did a pretty decent job as a starter for us minus this year and a lot of the thrashing he got and is still getting is far from deserving and far from reality.

PS: In other news the Cowboys got beat by the Vikings today and are now 1-4. The Panthers STILL have a chance to make me happy this year. Win one more game than the Cowboys.

[TheRealDeal]

You asked for starts. He told you Russell's first three starts.

Correct!

(Koot Kat goes back and edits post to say "Rookie Year")