How can anyone justify Moore over Clausen at this point?

[CatMan72]

I thought the number one goal is to score points? You have fallen victim to foxball for too long. We'll be here with open arms when you take the first step.

Well, you thought wrong... but don't take my word for it, go to one of these ESPN chats and ask an expert what the # 1 job of a QB is, you'll get the same answer.

P.S. the # 1 job of the QB is to protect the ball (maintain posession) because there is a direct correlation between the QB maintaining posession and winning.

[CatMan72]

Also, Clausen has 3 interceptions and 2 fumbles lost resulting in one less turnover than Moore. So I would say neither has shown they can protect the ball.

IMO, Clausen's fumbling snaps problem is much easier to fix than Moore's poor vision and decision making.

[Peppers90 NC]

Well, you thought wrong... but don't take my word for it, go to one of these ESPN chats and ask an expert what the # 1 job of a QB is, you'll get the same answer.

P.S. the # 1 job of the QB is to protect the ball (maintain posession) because there is a direct correlation between the QB maintaining posession and winning.

hmmm not to get in the middle of yalls game of pattycakes, but wouldnt scoring points mean they protected the ball?

[CatMan72]

According to Catman you must not have a clue then. Seriously who cares about winning games and scoring points when you can go 3 & out and give the kid in the 3rd row a nice souvenir on one of your scrambles from no one then throw away.

At least you didn't turn it over. Just don't throw interceptions and hand it to Dwill...DOH!

Pssst, there's a direct correlation between the QB protecting the ball and winning.

[TheRealDeal]

So do you include 3&outs in there as well because that is not maintaining possession right? I'd have to look back on the numbers but it seems Clausen isn't doing that much better than Moore AND scoring less points.

[CatMan72]

...and btw, how many games has Moore won this year with is additional 2% of passing attempts going for TD's? (while 10% result in INT's).

[TheRealDeal]

Pssst, there's a direct correlation between the QB protecting the ball and winning.

Can you show me this correlation?

I want to see how Clausen's protection of the ball has led to winning.

[CatMan72]

So do you include 3&outs in there as well because that is not maintaining possession right? I'd have to look back on the numbers but it seems Clausen isn't doing that much better than Moore AND scoring less points.

So you're saying a 3&out = an INT?

[CatMan72]

Can you show me this correlation?

I want to see how Clausen's protection of the ball has led to winning.

I want to see how Moore's additional 2% of passing attempts resulting in TD's this year has led to winning?

[TheRealDeal]

You are the one bringing up random stats with %. The only stat I brought up was points scored. Based on your stats or protecting the ball Mark Sanchez, Vick, Kolb, Cambell, Fitzpatrick are all better than Manning. Also, Rodgers is not even in the top 20 QBs. Want to rethink your garbage stats?

[CatMan72]

There's plenty of data out there that demonstrates how the QB protecting the ball results in more winning. If you don't believe me, go look it up for yourself.

And while you're at it, drop by an ESPN chat room and ask an expert what the # 1 job of the QB is... the answer will sound very familiar.

[CatMan72]

You are the one bringing up random stats with %. The only stat I brought up was points scored. Based on your stats or protecting the ball Mark Sanchez, Vick, Kolb, Cambell, Fitzpatrick are all better than Manning. Also, Rodgers is not even in the top 20 QBs. Want to rethink your garbage stats?

So what is Manning's TD to INT ratio this year? Does 10% of the passes Manning has thrown result in INT's?

[chef17]

IMO, Clausen's fumbling snaps problem is much easier to fix than Moore's poor vision and decision making.

I think both can be corrected. It just depeneds which QB works harder to correct it.

[TheRealDeal]

100% of Brad Smith's passes are TDs...see how stat's mean nothing? I'm done arguing with you because obviously you are set in your ways that not turning it over somehow trumps scoring points. I just don't see how that makes sense but I'll take the high road and wait until we play the 49ers to see what makes sense.