I don't think losing Smith for a week or three is that bad a thing.

[pstall]

so the offense goes from vanilla to baby food? awesome

[Fox007]

so the offense goes from vanilla to baby food? awesome

Yea looking at Davidson, you'd think he could give us some cheeseburgers or pizza or something.

[MHS831]

I think he is toxic. Losing is hard, but when you are as talented as SS and the QB can't get you the ball because you are doubled or he doesn't have time, frustration mounts. SS is not known for his self discipline.

Jarrett might have found another life--he looked so bad today, I could have sworn he was getting cut on the flight home. I would consider putting Armanti out there. Message to Dumbass Davidson: Forget the Wildcat, forget punt returns, let the guy learn the WR spot. Also, USE BARNIDGE, you mildly retarted dolt. This is the third game where the announcers have questioned your calls and formations. Announcers!! And they are right. YOu have 8 in the box and you motion toward the LOS and run up the damn middle. Due to the formation and the motion, you brought the 9th man into the box. Sorry. Tangent.

[Fox007]

I think he is toxic. Losing is hard, but when you are as talented as SS and the QB can't get you the ball because you are doubled or he doesn't have time, frustration mounts. SS is not known for his self discipline.

Jarrett might have found another life--he looked so bad today, I could have sworn he was getting cut on the flight home. I would consider putting Armanti out there. Message to Dumbass Davidson: Forget the Wildcat, forget punt returns, let the guy learn the WR spot. Also, USE BARNIDGE, you mildly retarted dolt. This is the third game where the announcers have questioned your calls and formations. Announcers!! And they are right. YOu have 8 in the box and you motion toward the LOS and run up the damn middle. Due to the formation and the motion, you brought the 9th man into the box. Sorry. Tangent.

When you watch our offense it doesn't look like it would pass for a high school practice session, much less a real, supposedly professional product.

[mav1234]

god, I never imagined that any coordinator would make me fall asleep wishing Henning suddenly became available.

[GRWatcher]

we could just take it to the next level and bench vets here and there week to week during the season. Could be a good idea. This season is f**ked either way. bench all of em, start our young players, hire people to incite riots at the stadium, and get a new mascot, not necessarily in that order.

so the offense goes from vanilla to baby food? awesome

Humor in the face of disaster. I love it. :patriot: I salute both of you.

Fiz, you are nuts. They didn't get better in preseason, no WR-not-named-Smith has stepped up in 4 games.

[Fox007]

Humor in the face of disaster. I love it. :patriot: I salute both of you.

Fiz, you are nuts. They didn't get better in preseason, no WR-not-named-Smith has stepped up in 4 games.

Well humor seems to be about all we have left, dignity and pride are out the window.

[Icege]

For the development of our WRs, this is an excellent opportunity. However, it is unfortunate that 89 is out. We'll need his playmaker capabilities in the upcoming weeks, but at least there's an upcoming Bye.

Something that made me lol today, was when one of the announcers said that Clausen had spent time with LaFell and Gettis on the 2nd squad during training camp while Moore got reps with Smitty and DJ. Like Smitty didn't have a broken arm and was out there catching balls. Ass.

But anyways, Clausen did get time with those guys, so I'm expecting him to be a bit more at ease. Smitty also, as some have already said, is not a leader. He has no interest in being a leader (which I'm fairly certain he's stated before). However, he does care about winning, and leads by example. That TO he took in the 1st half was a heads up play, which is what we pay him to do.

However, if Smitty gets on Clausen's ass when Chicago comes to town (assuming Clausen makes a terrible decision that costs the team), then that's just the way he leads. Let him do what he does. Clausen is a big boy and can take it. He appreciates Smitty for who he is, and at the same time is slowly making the team his own.

Gettis is looking more and more solid, and LaFell I think will do well blocking. I haven't paid all that much attention to Gettis' blocking, but the more these kids can do the better.

As much as I would love to see Armanti play (I think he'll be something special... or at the very least useful), I just don't see him being activated. Sutton was hurt this weak iirc, or maybe it was last. Fox has said they're trying different receiver rotations, but you can't justify Edwards over Sutton for Special Teams. Especially with how well Goodson and Captain are doing on returns.

I've been a long time silent supporter of Dwayne Jarrett, though I've taken plenty of shots at him in conversation. After seeing his terrible, terrible route (that ended up being a lucky pop up that Kinger got under), and complete and total lack of ability to separate, what's been made very clear is that DJ is a niche player. He needs to be allowed to go up and ****** passes, and be putting that big body in front of defenders. Unfortunately he's never going to be this big impact player, but if we're going to be throwing more and he's going to be #3, I think that's really the best possible place for him (used as a check down option). I think he's more of a redzone threat than anything, which is unfortunate. In order to be of value in this league, you have to be able to fill multiple roles. Not just one. Here's to hoping that this is where he needs to be. I wouldn't mind seeing more 3WR sets with Armanti and DJ rotating in and out. I'd also like to see Davidson not call a bunch of deep routes when heat is coming and our WR can't exactly be trusted when manned up on.

[Mr. Burgundy]

you guys are going to be begging for smitty in about 6 days...

[Hairless Cat]

I agree rep coming.

Dangit got to spread it around first.

But you are correct. This will Help Clausen develop better without worrying about getting the ball to Smitty.

I thought the exact same thing after smitty went out yesterday - I was wondering if clausen wasnt sort of breathing a sigh of relief.

[thefuzz]

In the NFL you don't lose one of your 4 best players and get better.

That said, if the towel is thrown in (I think that it is), it really doesn't matter either way.

[PantherPhann]

First, this is based off an assumption, that being the Panthers are not going to compete this year.

Smith has been something of a distraction. I'm sure he doesn't go out there planning to sabotage the offense and bitch and moan as loud as possible, but he has a pretty negative attitude when things aren't going his way.

things aren't going to go his way this year.

We might as well just stick with throwing to gettis and lefell, hoping we can level them up a little more.

Smith clearly isn't interested in being a leader so we might as well just stick with the young guys. the last thing I want is smith constantly bitching at Jimmy while he adjusts to the pro game.

Plus gettis is p

I dissagree...Although we aren't throwing to Smith. He draws double team by the D on almost every play. Now w/o him that will allow opposing D's to free up a man, possibly an extra blitzer when we can't pick up the ones that are already coming. And as far as Smith bitc*ing and moaning...thats a load of crock. Smith is veteren leader and by far the best WR on the team. He needs to make Clausen aware that he needs to pay attention to the playclock, that he needs to get throws up, that he needs to calm down and complete the easy throws because we are barley moving the ball on ofense as it is. Smith has been the face of the Panthers for some time now. Fans would show the man the respect he deserves, instead of giving ill placed blame.

[Mr. Scot]

As far as our chances of winning the next few games, it's definitely not good.

In as much as it forces us into a position where we'll really see what we have at receiver, yeah, in the big picture it could be a positive.

[fjblair]

First, this is based off an assumption, that being the Panthers are not going to compete this year.

Smith has been something of a distraction. I'm sure he doesn't go out there planning to sabotage the offense and bitch and moan as loud as possible, but he has a pretty negative attitude when things aren't going his way.

things aren't going to go his way this year.

We might as well just stick with throwing to gettis and lefell, hoping we can level them up a little more.

Smith clearly isn't interested in being a leader so we might as well just stick with the young guys. the last thing I want is smith constantly bitching at Jimmy while he adjusts to the pro game.

Plus gettis is p

I agree with you. I like Steve Smith but he is a distraction and the Panthers should trade him while they can get something for him. He is not getting any younger and may be getting more prone to injury.