Fox must go. We win in spite of him. Enough is enough.

[Cyberjag]

I'm just having a hard time equating the two. Yes, our division is tougher, but I never saw the implosions that we've had while watching the Cowher-led Steelers. I never remember watching a Steelers game and wondering, "why aren't they adjusting?" He won year in and year out. And his last season was the year that Big Ben got injured in the motorcycle accident and he wasn't right all year.

After Cowher left, and even while he was there, I never remember multiple players mentioning they weren't behind him, or even suggesting it. By all accounts, his players rallied behind him. I never really feel that with Fox.

Well right now we have one player who's saying it's not just Fox, he's not going to play in Carolina no matter what. Last year we had a player rip both his teammates and the coaching staff. Other than that, we seem to have a pretty damn good team.

[MyDrunkardNC]

I'm fully on the "Fire Fox" bandwagon.

:dupe:

[TheJza]

it was a figurative analogy. that statement was based more on lebron than it was cowher... simply put, cowher is a proven leader of men, fox hasn't shown that capacity.

100% correct. As it were, his replacement is also a "leader of men". Mike Tomlin is a fine coach. The Steelers do it right! There's no arguing that.

[Wanderlai]

I'm with the fire Fox folks. He will never be able to out coach anyone in the playoffs when it counts. He cant motivate his players. He is far to loyal to his players and coaches to make needed changes. As Fox would say, "It is what it is." What is is, is Vanilla ass football. I wanted him gone before the season ever started. Sure he had a 12-4 record and made the playoffs with abye. Then total pwnage by Arizona. We also got pwned in the Seattle NFC championship game. Per Fox those were just "bad days." What??? Yeah I know as a Panthers fan there are many "bad days" Days when we are out coached and the team doesnt even show up. I agree with Proudiddy...the Panthers win in spite of horrible coaching. I'm all for hiring Cowher.

[BlindSite]

No, Peppers has not made it clear he doesn't have the teams ears, hearts or minds, Peppers has made it clear, Fox does not have his.

The biggest mistake imo was making Peppers a captain, he doesn't want that scrutiny and he buckled under the pressure.

Fox is one of the best head coaches post season record wise. His last two trips got him to a superbowl where he lost to the greatest coach of modern time, and then took a very weak team to an NFCCG.

This was the first game where he failed to get past the divisional round, in his career. It wasn't his calls, or his arm that threw 5 interceptions, he didn't fumble a football. He didn't give up turnovers that lead to 23 points.

He didn't blow his zone on third down which allowed another 7.

[SCpanther]

I agree. We weren't 12-4 this season because of Fox. He's a defensive coach and our defense sucked for the entire second half of the year. We were 12-4 because we have one of the best WRs in football and a kick ass running game led by DeAngelo Williams. That's funny, considering Fox had so little faith in Williams that he drafted a RB in the first round. Then, he tries to play up how improved Williams is, because he doesn't want to look stupid (the guy was already averaging 5 yds last season).

The fact of the matter is, this team has never had a truly dominant defense under Fox (except maybe '02 when Del Rio was coordinator). This, despite the fact that defense is Fox's specialty.

[beastson]

No, Peppers has not made it clear he doesn't have the teams ears, hearts or minds, Peppers has made it clear, Fox does not have his.

The biggest mistake imo was making Peppers a captain, he doesn't want that scrutiny and he buckled under the pressure.

Fox is one of the best head coaches post season record wise. His last two trips got him to a superbowl where he lost to the greatest coach of modern time, and then took a very weak team to an NFCCG.

This was the first game where he failed to get past the divisional round, in his career. It wasn't his calls, or his arm that threw 5 interceptions, he didn't fumble a football. He didn't give up turnovers that lead to 23 points.

He didn't blow his zone on third down which allowed another 7.

No but it was his call to continuing inactivating a receiver. Leaving our 3rd receiver out there and never receiving the ball

It was his call to use Moose and Smith through the passing game all year. Which resulted to the Cards knowing the ball would go directly to them, and they picked it off. ALL OF JAKE INT CAME FROM THROWING TO SMITH AND MOOSE, WHO FAULT IS THAT. Its Fox call that we dont run plays for others in the passing game

It was Fox call to use a soft zone all year and no make adjustments. And ever since the first bye week, teams threw all on us. Fox call to not run man against the Cards to keep Gamble on him all game. Instead our zone allowed Larry to go in the slot and go against Marshall

Fox decision to make excuses about us giving up yards cause we played great offenses

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Now I do not think Fox is all evil and incompetent. But you cannot hide under the 12-4 record. We did win in spite of his lack of adjustments and game plan.

If you saw every snap of every game then you would know how many times in a game a veteran Madden player makes better defensive adjustments and clock management. I mean Deangelo carved up the Giants on Monday night...but you put in Jonathan Stewart in the overtime. hmmm........ stuff like that.

The Arizona game is so frustrating b/c where we broke down were all areas of concern all year......last year....we have seen these decisions and lack of adjustments. Just remember the 1st Tampa Bay game where we were just non-competitive.

One thing is consistent: we do not make the playoffs two years in a row. All those defenders of 12-4 that view Fox as "the perfect guy" will you be saying the same thing after 8-8 next season? It is funny to see people here defend Foxie then point how flawed Cowher or Shotty is.