New Theory on why Fox said what he said.

[PantherBrew]

You know, the whole "Too early to name a starter crap".

I know there is a thread about this already, but I am narcissistic and need the attention, or I will die.

Anyways, this is what I am thinking.

I know we all think Fox hates Moore, and I used to think it too.

But the only explanation I can think of for why Fox wouldn't name Jimmy the starter for the whole season is out of respect for Moore. Okay... take a deep breath, I know I have just blown your mind.

Here is the reasoning: If it took at minimum two weeks for John to bench Matt Moore after a whole off season of being 'the guy'. Then he is not going to name Jimmy the starter for the entire season after one relatively good performance. Much like he didn't name Moore the starter last season after one good game.

So what I am saying, John Fox may be retarded, but he is not that retarded. Jimmy will start next week, but he will probably not be named official 'starter', until we win a game.

Okay, go back to your whack off session.

[CLTPanther]

An issue I have with your theory is why would he really even worry about disrespecting Moore? It's not like they will be working together next year anyway. Fox will be fired and Moore will be not be offered another contract.

[PantherBrew]

An issue I have with your theory is why would he really even worry about disrespecting Moore? It's not like they will be working together next year anyway. Fox will be fired and Moore will be not be offered another contract.

Professionalism?

[CLTPanther]

It was probably more to do with Fox not knowing if Clausen would be able to walk this week after taking some of those big hits, especially that last one.

[Anybodyhome]

"Then he is not going to name Jimmy the starter for the entire season after one relatively good performance. Much like he didn't name Moore the starter last season after one good game."

I'm a little lost here. Are you saying Clausen's first start yesterday was "one relatively good performance?"

Sorry, I'm not onboard with that synopsis of his game yesterday at all. I thought Clausen was terrible yesterday. If we were going to compare Moore and Clausen, which I don't believe is fair to either QB to begin with, their respective performances were all terrible.

Fox won't name a starter this soon because Clausen got crushed on the Panther's final offensive play and it took him 5 minutes to get off the field. He may very well be concussion tested today.

[NcCats]

Good part Clausen was walking fine acted fine after the game.And he's young but I bet he does feel like he was in a car wreck.

Welcome to the NFL.

[PantherBrew]

"Then he is not going to name Jimmy the starter for the entire season after one relatively good performance. Much like he didn't name Moore the starter last season after one good game."

I'm a little lost here. Are you saying Clausen's first start yesterday was "one relatively good performance?"

Sorry, I'm not onboard with that synopsis of his game yesterday at all. I thought Clausen was terrible yesterday.

Key word bud, relatively. Relatively speaking considering he is a rookie QB making his first start in week 3 against one of the better defenses in the league. It was 'relatively' good start and if you expect a lot better than you need to check your expectations.

[CatMan72]

I would be more worried about giving Jimmy an apparent "no confidence" vote unless Fox has already told Jimmy he will start and he should ignore what Fox says in press conferences.

[PanthersPhan18]

Fox said what he said, beause he wants to be nominated on the "C'Mon Man" segment tonight.

[Anybodyhome]

Key word bud, relatively. Relatively speaking considering he is a rookie QB making his first start in week 3 against one of the better defenses in the league. It was 'relatively' good start and if you expect a lot better than you need to check your expectations.

Key mistake, bud, making comparisons. Clausen is Clausen, the guy named to start the game as QB. He's not Moore, Manning or Mike Vick. He's not any better or worse than Sam Bradford or Charlie Batch. Making comparisons only serves to create an unrealistic expectation level... look what happened to Matt Moore when everyone began comparing him to Jake.

I have no expectations of the 2010 Carolina Panthers- I've been on record with that statement since the draft. There are for too many unknown variables in this team to create any expectations, one of them being the QB.

But I will say I don't care if the guy is a rookie or not, the fact remains he is the starting QB of a team that is simply not very good on the side of the ball he plays and if we were to speak "relatively"- the entire offense is horrible right now and that offense includes rookies and vets.

[PantherBrew]

Key mistake, bud, making comparisons. Clausen is Clausen, the guy named to start the game as QB. He's not Moore, Manning or Mike Vick. He's not any better or worse than Sam Bradford or Charlie Batch. Making comparisons only serves to create an unrealistic expectation level... look what happened to Matt Moore when everyone began comparing him to Jake.

I have no expectations of the 2010 Carolina Panthers- I've been on record with that statement since the draft. There are for too many unknown variables in this team to create any expectations, one of them being the QB.

But I will say I don't care if the guy is a rookie or not, the fact remains he is the starting QB of a team that is simply not very good on the side of the ball he plays and if we were to speak "relatively"- the entire offense is horrible right now and that offense includes rookies and vets.

Haha, I am the one making comparisons between Jimmy and other players? and I am the one with unrealistic expectations?

are you fuging with me? cause if you are, props to you

[Anybodyhome]

Haha, I am the one making comparisons between Jimmy and other players? and I am the one with unrealistic expectations?

are you f**king with me? cause if you are, props to you

Did you not use the term "relatively?" You stated Clausen had a relatively good performance, which means "compared to or relative to someone or something else," right? I'm simply asking the question here, because that sounds like a comparison.

[PantherBrew]

I am comparing 'his first start and performance', not him as a quarterback, to other rookie QB's making their first start.

Yea his performance was terrible compared to Brady or Manning's "Performance" from yesterday. But compared to other rookies first starts and performances in their first starts, it was relatively good, and it was also relatively good compared to what Moore has done this season.

I am not the one with unrealistic expectations.

[Anybodyhome]

I am comparing 'his first start and performance', not him as a quarterback, to other rookie QB's making their first start.

Yea his performance was terrible compared to Brady or Manning's "Performance" from yesterday. But compared to other rookies first starts and performances in their first starts, it was relatively good, and it was also relatively good compared to what Moore has done this season.

I am not the one with unrealistic expectations.

I wasn't taking exception with what you were saying because I simply was trying to understand what you making the comparison to. Sorry if I offended, it wasn't my intention.

That being said, my opinion is that his performance was lousy without any comparisons because other rookies have/had other teams, players, coaches, etc., know what I mean?

Sam Bradford had a great day compared to Clausen, but I don't think it's necessarily right to compare the two because they have nothing in common except the fact they're both rooks. It's a collective effort as far as I'm concerned and Jimmy Clausen's miserable performance is being held out for public scrutiny because of his position and his name hype.

But his miserable performance is also a result of equally miserable performances by the O-line, rookie WRs, coaching, playcalling, etc.

The lack of experience, the number off rookies, the inability of the coaching staff; ultra-conservative, vanilla, unimaginative playcalling that make up this team are the reasons I have for walking into BOA every Sunday home game with no expectations...