I thought Clausen looked good...

[pantherj]

I dont see a DT worth taking in the top 5..

Hellooooo Marcell Dareus!

[trucpfan]

You are beyond ingorant and blind and there is no reason to respond to you anymore. I don't know how 6 of 16 and benched can be seen as something positive. Matt Moore last season deserved a shot at starting this year. Matt Moore this season doesn't even deserve to be in this league. They tried to give Matt his shot to keep the job. You are giving Moore credit when he should be getting none. The Bengals have the toughest defense of the three teams we have faced. The Bucs are bad and the Giants are bad. Moore couldn't do anything to them. Clausen deserved to start and I see no reason why he wouldn't start next week.

Get over it and start supporting your QB. The kid showed improvement during the game.

Should be getting none.....great quote.

[YourMomsLover]

I thought Jimmy Jam was excellent in his first NFL start

[xblaCkpaNther_]

PantherFan I agree with a lot of what your saying. I don't remember seeing anybody say Clausen was flawless? I agree with you that Jim does "have a name." That IS a huge reason y a lot of us like him over mm but he wasnt just given that name he earned it by playing great following up to entering the NFL draft.

Panther fans have given mm his chance and well his stats will tell u how that ended...

So clausen comes in a plays a ok game. He wasnt horrible like mm was. Plus he was a rookie who played in a flooded field all day against a top 10 defense. We drafted him for a reason. He will be a starting qb rather you/I like it. We just need to get use to it.

[mav1234]

When comparing last week's game to this week's game, the first half of this week's game resembled most of last week's game (except the couple series' clausen had).

However, the second half of this week's game showed a Panther's offense that was able to move the ball some on a couple drives. Multiple drives, of course, ended in turnovers in both games, and in the first half, Clausen accounted for too many turnovers. In the second half, though, he did a good job protecting the ball.

In my opinion, the team looked like it had a spark in the second half of this game, whereas it looked dead almost all of last week.

We have to remember when comparing Clausen to Moore is that Moore has had years in this system and Clausen has not. Clausen is not the "savior" of the franchise but he probably is the better QB. More games will tell that for certain.

[PantherFanForLife]

When comparing last week's game to this week's game, the first half of this week's game resembled most of last week's game (except the couple series' clausen had).

However, the second half of this week's game showed a Panther's offense that was able to move the ball some on a couple drives. Multiple drives, of course, ended in turnovers in both games, and in the first half, Clausen accounted for too many turnovers. In the second half, though, he did a good job protecting the ball.

In my opinion, the team looked like it had a spark in the second half of this game, whereas it looked dead almost all of last week.

We have to remember when comparing Clausen to Moore is that Moore has had years in this system and Clausen has not. Clausen is not the "savior" of the franchise but he probably is the better QB. More games will tell that for certain.

That a joke and I read no further than that. That's exactly what I'm talking about when I say people didn't credit Moore enough and credit Jimmy too much.

[mav1234]

That a joke and I read no further than that. That's exactly what I'm talking about when I say people didn't credit Moore enough and credit Jimmy too much.

oh really? ok, here's the drive chart:

last week:

12:53 1:43 CAR 24 3 0 Punt

07:11 3:28 CAR 23 8 33 Punt

14:19 2:36 CAR 12 6 88 Touchdown

07:43 5:49 CAR 19 10 40 Punt

15:00 1:44 CAR 29 3 4 Punt

12:07 1:18 CAR 16 3 4 Interception

07:40 3:03 CAR 6 6 8 Punt

14:46 2:11 CAR 44 6 18 Fumble

10:03 6:28 CAR 20 18 78 Downs

03:10 0:29 TB 48 2 -1 Interception

00:22 0:22 CAR 6 1 5 End of Game

this week's first half:

14:44 1:05 CIN 47 3 17 Fumble

10:48 1:54 CAR 4 3 2 Punt

04:21 3:03 CAR 26 6 23 Punt

00:11 0:05 CIN 21 1 0 Interception

07:33 2:10 CAR 2 3 6 Punt

01:10 0:28 CAR 28 3 -8 Fumble

second half:

15:00 1:25 CAR 24 3 4 Punt

11:39 3:23 CAR 25 8 75 Touchdown

03:49 1:05 CAR 11 3 9 Punt

14:53 1:32 CAR 20 3 4 Punt

11:31 2:27 CAR 16 5 26 Fumble

08:11 4:08 CAR 20 9 40 Downs

02:18 0:53 CAR 4 8 79 Downs

what do you notice? oh look, the offense sucked in both games, and our terrible production in the first half looks quite a bit like most of the drives in the previous game. Yes, both games had one touchdown and one good drive that turned over on downs. Moore had one good drive, yup. Other times, receivers dropped passes or people were overthrown, but that happened to both Clausen and Moore.

[rayzor]

when moore first stepped in as starter last year, there were those who kept arguing that he didn't much if any better than jake. from the way it looked initially, they were right. he didn't light it up right away. here is the issue i had with that...we were mad because a QB with less than 5 starts under his belt wasn't looking any better than a QB with more than 90. the fact is a QB should look better after 90 starts than after his first handful. considering moore hadn't worked with the team much as a starter and it was his first start in a couple years, it was to be expected that it would take a little time.

while moore is far from an established vet, he still should have been looking better than clausen did in his first. i would make an argument that the last two weeks that moore didn't look much, if any better.

a player starting for the first time as a rookie is going to have some issues, especially if he didn't go into camp as the starting QB. the backup QB doesn't get to put in much time with the starters. it takes some time for him to make that team his. it's going to take time to have an offense built around his skill set and it's going to take time for a chemistry to develop between he and the other starters. he would have had that time in preseason and TC. he didn't so now we are going o have to deal with a team that is having to work to get on the same page.

moore, with all the work that had gone into his being the starter should have done much better than clausen. there is no excuse for not looking better after being designated as THE QB. he had ample time to get things together and he didn't. he should have made much less mental mistakes than clausen, but he didn't.

he should have been able to accomplish much more than clausen, but he didn't. he might have done a little better (although that is arguable) but it wasn't nearly as good as it should have been compared to a rookie that is coming in cold (which i would consider clausen to be at this point).

after he has had time with the first team...and by that i mean weeks...things should work out.

also consider this, fox teams usually look like crap early on and then things finally start to fall together in the second half. that might have helped moore out last year and it should help clausen out as well.

[PanthersPhan18]

People, don't bother, PantherFanForLife never looks for anything positive to say.

[PanthersPhan18]

I thought Jimmy Jam was excellent in his first NFL start

I wouldn't say excellent, but he was pretty good for a rookie qb starting his first game.

[PantherFanForLife]

People, don't bother, PantherFanForLife never looks for anything positive to say.

Not true. I will when it's there. And I did say I thought he looked better than Moore in the pocket and got the ball out quicker.

That doesn't mean I'm going to agree with anyone who sees an arguable difference at best as a better performance.

But anyway, I'm done with this. You guys see a big difference over Matt. I don't see it, and the numbers certainly don't back you guys up either. I hope Jimmy turns out to be great, and does better next week. I hope you guys end up being right.

But for the time being, I will not call this performance anything more than what it was. Poor. No better than Moore's.

[HPPantherzfan]

For his first start I thought he looked good as well. there were lots of passes that were dropped and it wasn't Clausens fault; h3ll I can't blame the receivers either...it was very wet out there!

I would like to have 3 or 4 of those missed INT's back from the D though!

[Panthers128]

Not true. I will when it's there. And I did say I thought he looked better than Moore in the pocket and got the ball out quicker.

That doesn't mean I'm going to agree with anyone who sees an arguable difference at best as a better performance.

But anyway, I'm done with this. You guys see a big difference over Matt. I don't see it, and the numbers certainly don't back you guys up either. I hope Jimmy turns out to be great, and does better next week. I hope you guys end up being right.

But for the time being, I will not call this performance anything more than what it was. Poor. No better than Moore's.

The problem with your posts is that you are being impartial. That makes you a troll in these parts. You're supposed to express a biased point of view and celebrate the greatness that is Jimmy Clausen even if he can't handle a snap simply because he is a Panthers QB just getting started.

Some people here pretended Jake Delhomme was good till the end and you can't even pretend Jimmy Clausen is good for one game? What kind of fan are you?

[unicar15]

Thought he looked good when they actually let him put it in the air. Its ridiculous that the kid only got 5 total pass attempts in the first half. That is a crock. Let him drop back and give him Deangelo as an outlet underneath.

Leave Clausen in and let him develop some confidence with this team. Draft AJ Green or Julio Jones, sign Deangelo to an extension, trade Jonathan Stewart for a first round pick (Brandon Harris?) and go to work next year with a great young team.