Melo Four Team Trade Talks (Bobcats ARE a team)

[Vagrant]

Pretty soon, teams are going to stop calling us about getting in on trades. We've really done some major damage by accepting trades, then going back on our word in the past few months. We've had Diaw out the door twice. We've made several deals that just disappeared by our own volition without explanation. It just makes us come across as bush league. I hope they see that and live up to their trade offer.

[hepcat]

Pretty soon, teams are going to stop calling us about getting in on trades. We've really done some major damage by accepting trades, then going back on our word in the past few months. We've had Diaw out the door twice. We've made several deals that just disappeared by our own volition without explanation. It just makes us come across as bush league. I hope they see that and live up to their trade offer.

I don't think we're holding up this trade, but I can understand if we are. We wouldn't have a backup PG without Augustin (Livingston is a wildcard with his injury history) and he's still young and developing. Devin Harris is an improvement to the PG position but he really hasn't shown he can lead an offense yet. Chalk it up to playing for the Nets, but even on Dallas he wasn't a fulltime starter when they were winning.

Also wasn't Devin Harris the guy that got schooled by some random Brittish dude on the street?

[carpanfan96]

http://www.rotowire.com/Carmelo-Anthony-googid130125-spnba.htm

If this is true it's disappointing why are we hung up on Augustin when we can have Harris locked up for at least 3 seasons??

NJ just said the other day that DJ wasn't a deal breaker, but they would try to work something out to get him either in this trade or in another one...It's denver thats doing all this trying to get better offers on the table.

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/24856540

There was renewed hope Sunday that a four-team trade sending Carmelo Anthony to the Nets was still alive, with the framework of the deal possibly expanding to include additional players and possibly another team, CBSSports.com has learned.

But a weekend of inertia continued to frustrate the three teams Denver hastily recruited to accelerate Anthony’s departure, with executives standing firm in their belief that the longer the delay, the stronger the chance that the precarious structure of the trade could fall apart.

Among New Jersey, Utah and Charlotte, sources say least concerned were the Nets, who understandably have “no deadline” to pull off the blockbuster, franchise-shaping deal. The problem is with the pieces volunteered by the Jazz and Bobcats, who’d benefit the least from the arrangement and want to avoid unnecessary distractions heading into training camp this week. Charlotte’s role in the existing deal would be to send Boris Diaw to Utah and receive Devin Harris from the Nets, while Utah would send Andre Kirilenko to the Nuggets, who’d get No. 3 pick Derrick Favors and two first-round picks from New Jersey. Quinton Ross also would go from New Jersey to Utah.

[GotSwag?]

Yeah, I am also one praying this deal goes through. I dont think people realize how good of a team we would be with Devin Harris on it. We will have some very underrated superstars on our team in Harris, Jackson, and Wallace. Throw in Thomas and I just think this team will be one of the top 5 in the confrence.

Im not sure either whether we are reluctant to trade DJ in this deal because we want him on the team or because we want to hold him around in hopes to make another deal in the future with him in it. We will see.

Also, Ive read reports that its just Diaw for Harris..then some say Diaw and Augustin for Harris and Hayes, and some Harris for Diaw and Augustin..does anyone really know at this point?

[SOJA]

On ESPN Chris Broussard reported that the major snag was that the Nuggs weren't ready to do the deal because they would actually be taking on about 9 million more dollars with the luxury tax, and obviously they would be getting worse.

That said Melo doesn't want to go to the Warriors or Sixers, so if he is going to be dealt it will happen with the Nets.

At this point I think the Knicks and Bulls are not serious contenders, but you never know.

[carpanfan96]

Trade Update::

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/24872484

Talks of a blockbuster trade that would send Carmelo Anthony to the Nets gained momentum Monday before getting bogged down again in the Nuggets' indecision, two people familiar with the negotiations told CBSSports.com.

One person briefed on the complicated, four-team talks described them as "moving along" after a weekend of inertia fueled by Denver's inability to make a final decision on trading its franchise player -- and Anthony's desire to make sure he was doing the right thing by signing off on a deal to New Jersey.

"Talking and waiting," was how another person with knowledge of the negotiations described them.

On Sunday, a person connected to the talks told CBSSports.com that there was a "more than 50 percent chance" Anthony is traded in the next 24-48 hours. The momentum gained Monday bolstered that prediction, with most of the focus on the original framework of the deal also involving the Bobcats and Jazz.

But as the discussions dragged on, frustration with the Nuggets' handling of the negotiations was building among the other executives involved in the deal. One person who has been briefed on the talks described the Denver team of GM Masai Ujiri, executive Josh Kroenke and adviser Bret Bearup -- consummating their first trade together -- as "a huge puzzle." A second person familiar with the discussions expressed frustration with "a lot of contingencies" the Nuggets were trying to place on the deal, and a third described the Nuggets as indecisive and hesitant.

Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor, speaking at Utah's media day , said, "If you're going to make that trade, it would've been done Friday."

The Nuggets have done this slow dance before, under different leadership, but the meandering pace of these trade talks has some execs marveling at how some things in Denver haven't changed.

As part of the scenario being discussed for weeks and tabled over the weekend while Denver executives strategized privately and sought other offers, the Nets would send No. 3 pick Derrick Favors and two first-round picks to Denver for Anthony. The Bobcats would get Devin Harris from New Jersey and send Boris Diaw to Utah, which could send Andrei Kirilenko and his $17.8 million expiring contract to Denver. Quinton Ross would go from New Jersey to Utah.

That basic structure "hasn't changed" since Friday, said one person who has been briefed on the talks.

[Zaximus]

Please please I hope this happens, at least a yes or no soon, waiting sucks.

[rico6]

Just do it Denver.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Looks like Carmello said no.

[carpanfan96]

Looks like Carmello said no.

Haven't seen anything that says he turned it down, actually the exact oposite of that. That he said yes to the trade with NJ. Right now this is all on Denver trying to talk Anthony down from the teams he listed and trying to get better players...Like Anthony going to Charlotte for Wallace for example.

[C-A-T-S]

Al_Iannazzone Anthony deal is dead.

3 minutes ago via TweetDeck

WojYahooNBA Four way deal died, and league source says that Nets "need some closure on matter." Hard to run a training camp with so much uncertainty.

half a minute ago via ÜberTwitter

Al_Iannazzone Let me rephrase since I don't like to use dead. It's just not happening as it was. It could happen later with different players, teams.

Al_Iannazzone Link to Blog on No Deal For The Time Being. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/2010/09/28/2010-09-28_carmelo_anthony_trade_likely_to_happen_or_die_wednesday_as_new_jersey_nets_nugge.html

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[Its The Milk]

Le Sigh.

[carpanfan96]

Just to piss some people off, including myself.

Ironically, one person familiar with the negotiations said the deal probably would’ve been done by now if Charlotte hadn’t waived center Erick Dampier and his non-guaranteed $13 million contract – which would’ve been a home-run for Denver in an exchange for Martin. Including Dampier in the deal would’ve provided what source described as “ridiculous savings” for the Nuggets – about $33 million when factoring in the tax, making the deal “a no-brainer.”

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/24900717

[rico6]

lolbobcats.

This season is going to be painful.