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So Sutton is sitting the bench....

Zod

By Zod,
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monstercat Newbie

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What teams were trying to trade for Sutton?

Yeah, that's what I want to know. Also, you don't just snap your fingers and make the trading partner give you exactly what you want in return. Folks need to stop acting as if all 31 teams are here to do our bidding just because we may have a player to trade. This is real life, not a video game, and those other teams are worried about making themselves better, above all else.

Also, how do any of us know what's going on behind the scenes? For all we know, they are trying to trade somebody as I post this.

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So Sutton is sitting the bench behind Williams, Stewart, and now rising star Goodson. 4th string RB. May never see the field this season.

Yet when other teams were asking about him for trade, we do nothing, regardless of the fact we are the worst in the league at the WR position.

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Yeah, I agree. Sutton has become expendable b/c of Goodson's emergence. But the future is cloudy: D. Will needs a new contract and J. Stew hasn't been healthy since he arrived. But even in his unhealthyness, he's put up starter numbers, so with the brightness of his future, we don't want to loose that. In addition, trading Sutton will not get us a high enough pick or a good enough WR, so I agree with keeping him.
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R0CKnR0LLA Proficient

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I think the problem with trading Sutton is you won't get much in return, probably less than what's he's really worth. He didn't have the greatest numbers in college and teams weren't that high on him to begin with, hence why he went undrafted. He's still largely unproven so I can't think that sentiment has changed drastically.

Honestly, I think you'd be better of trading DWill for numerous reasons. You could conceivably get some very good value out of trading him to a RB needy team. Possibly a 1st + a player. His contract is up after this year, so he could end up just walking for nothing anyway. He's 27 now, this looks like a rebuilding year not a playoff run, and there's a lockout looming. He'd could be 29 by the time the Panthers have their next season and RBs don't generally have long careers in this league.

A depth chart of Stewart, Goodson, Sutton is still one of the best in the league. It would take a good deal for me to be on board with trading DWill though. Someone brought up NE, if we could get one of their 2011 1st rounders and Brandon Tate I'd think that would benefit us in the long run.

Just my opinion and I know some of you guys freak out when people even mention trading DWill cause he's a fan favorite, nice guy, team player, ect ect all that jazz...

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monstercat Newbie

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At best, if we trade Sutton we get a 5th round pick. Sorry but I'd rather have a proven player who can back up several positions rather than take a flyer on a late round pick.

Haven't you been paying attention? Whatever team we trade with, has to give us what we want because they care about us so much. At least that seems to be the theory a lot of these fans are going with. It's all Jerry/Hurney/Fox's fault if they don't bend to our will.

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You keep Sutton for the same reason you draft a guy like Ryan Kalil despite already having Justin Hartwig or go for a Dan Connor while already having Jon Beason.

Preemptive thinking.

The smarter teams in the league don't draft or sign guys when they have need. They do it before they have need. That way when your current starter's free agent year rolls around, if his demands are more than you want to pay, no problem. You already have his replacement waiting in the wings.

This is the strategy the Panthers are attempting to use, anyway. The level of success they're having at it is another discussion.

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You keep Sutton for the same reason you draft a guy like Ryan Kalil despite already having Justin Hartwig or go for a Dan Connor while already having Jon Beason.

Preemptive thinking.

The smarter teams in the league don't draft or sign guys when they have need. They do it before they have need. That way when your current starter's free agent year rolls around, if his demands are more than you want to pay, no problem. You already have his replacement waiting in the wings.

This is the strategy the Panthers are attempting to use, anyway. The level of success they're having at it is another discussion.

Now if only they could apply that same logic to the wide receiver and quarterback positions, we'd be okay.

Makes you wonder if he fits in the plan down the road because someone ahead of him is not in the future plans

I've thought the same thing, though it crossed my mind they might be trying to showcase Goodson in hopes of trading him.

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I do not think it is as simple as most people are making it out to be.

two points that have been made by others are the ones that make the most sense:

1) Sutton plays ST, FB, HB. He is a valuable player on this team. There are also a few facts that get overlooked also, Stewart and Williams are not what I would call the least injury prone backs in the league and we may not be able to have them both locked up nor was/is Goodson guaranteed to be cured of all his fumbling issues.

2) Even if teams were in contact with the Panthers, what if the deal was not getting fair value for him, or was the other team even offering a WR as part of the deal? What if it was a 6th round pick? Teams usually do not just trade player for player anymore, what if the Panthers thought the pick(s) trade were not fair. Sutton has been good for us yes, but he has not put up enough tape IMO to be worth THAT much to another team.

that being said.... if some how there was a " perfect storm " of situation where the Panthers could get a young fairly proven WR and fair value pick wise, then yes I would be all for it, but its just not that black and white.

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