If Carter falls past 3 or 4 do you pick up the phone?

[micnificent28]

I think there is only one true dominant edge in this draft. The one that would transform the pass rush. He's the sure fire 10 plus sacks a game guy. My question is what is it worth? At which point do to throw caution to the wind and pick up the phone?

I think it's worth exploring because to be honest we are not sure what we are getting in Walker who is the most likely rusher available. I think he's a fantastic player but that's split between edge and off ball. Williams isn't worth a top 10 pick period so we have a delima. Either go with another position of need or move up. When do you get desperate?

[Panthero]

Anything is worth exploring but what are you thinking on the compensation? Devils in those details. He seems as sure fire as any edge but there is always a risk. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

Probably not.  He's no sure thing either, and we'd have to give up too much.

[Jay Roosevelt]

Yes. Whether I'd actually take the deal depends on what we'd have to give up, but I think we have to call in that scenario.

[chknwing]

no, I think hes a risk even at #8 with the foot injury.  The second he is drafted, he will have surgery.  Almost a given.

[jfra78]

Just stay at 8 and pick Walker

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

Just stay at 8 and pick Walker

Walker isn't a sure fire edge.. he's undersized and has only split time between the two positions. He's only put up 5-6 sacks in one season is that worth the 8th pick?

[Basbear]

No, but Im not a big fan. 

I mean start talking 4th round as the only cost and ....

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Walker isn't a sure fire edge.. he's undersized and has only split time between the two positions. He's only put up 5-6 sacks in one season is that worth the 8th pick?

Yes

[bythenbrs]

12 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Walker isn't a sure fire edge.. he's undersized and has only split time between the two positions. He's only put up 5-6 sacks in one season is that worth the 8th pick?

Let me respond from a different view…  What player that will likely be available at 8 do you consider to be a sure fire pick?  From all the mocks I’ve seen, I’m not really sure anyone likely to be there is worth pick 8, hence, why I’m in favor of trading down for an extra pick(s).  It looks like picks 8 to 20 are interchangeable.  This draft looks very light at the top, in terms of immediate starters, future all pro players.  BPA at 8 just doesn’t look very strong compared to prior drafts.  YMMV.

[bythenbrs]

Just now, bythenbrs said:

Let me respond from a different view…  What player that will likely be available at 8 do you consider to be a sure fire pick?  From all the mocks I’ve seen, I’m not really sure anyone likely to be there is worth pick 8, hence, why I’m in favor of trading down for an extra pick(s).  It looks like picks 8 to 20 are interchangeable.  This draft looks very light at the top, in terms of immediate starters, future all pro players.  BPA at 8 just doesn’t look very strong compared to prior drafts.  YMMV.

To answer my own question, T may be the BPA at 8.

[d-dave]

Our offseason mantra needs to be "the draft is a crap shoot!"  Right???

Now Carter is very interesting.  Some talking heads consider him the best, safest pick in the draft because his skills are translatable.  His floor is a high end pass rusher, ceiling perennial DPOY.  He played through injury at Penn State and was a force in his final game.  Dude has all the tools.

Who is graded out better?  Well...there you have wide variety of opinions.  The biggest question would be: do the Panthers have a high enough grade for him?  If he drops, I think you really have to think hard about it (depending on your board).  What's the dawg count in him???

Or do you take the best edge you can at 8 and let the rest fall where it may?  The draft is always surprising and full of "no duh" moments.  But if Carter falls to four, I think NE is going to have a LOT of calls.

[Jay Roosevelt]

I feel like Carter is a safer pick than most players in the top-10 just because he can play off-ball linebacker at a high level, even if he doesn't pan out as an edge rusher.

[drectorscut]

According to draft pick value we could swap with the Jags for our 3rd round pick (74). I think that's worth it to get Carter if the Jags would accept the deal.