Charlie Campbell Pt. 3

[jfra78]

Walker makes the most sense at 8

[Bear Hands]

Would be cool with this. 

[Lurk21]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Miller was a little taller and a little longer but people make way too much about an inch or two on these measurements.

Parsons is a couple inches taller but his arms are actually shorter than Walker's.

 

Walker:

Exactly,  his arm length  is longer than parsons and at basically  the some weight.  Some guys just play way bigger Than their size. He flashes on film more than anybody outside of Carter. 

[CPF4LIFE]

Walker has longer arms than parsons?

Turn in the card. 

[Lurk21]

11 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Walker has longer arms than parsons?

Turn in the card. 

Yeah when you look at the film, he does seem to get a good separation(hands on tackle) from the lineman. Just didn't know it was at 32. Dudes a true athletic freak. 

Edited Monday at 04:16 PM by Lurk21

[Donald LaFell]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I like Walker. Not sure if he'll ultimately be an edge or off the ball LB who is a great blitzer but either way I think he's a player. Draft him to play EDGE with the backup plan of putting him off the ball.

That seems like a compromise you shouldn’t have to make at 8. He might end up a decent player but I don’t any reason to compromise at 8. The same thing happened with Bryce Young. 

[NCBlu]

And everyone always ragging on Hurney about picking non premium players but want a off ball LB in the top 10. So we are back to picking outliers for top 10 picks if they think he is a rush end. A lot of draft people don't even rank him with the edge players. Then some complain about Burns run stopping but this guy is smaller.

6'5 250 vs 6'2 245

[PNW_PantherMan]

3 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

That seems like a compromise you shouldn’t have to make at 8. He might end up a decent player but I don’t any reason to compromise at 8. The same thing happened with Bryce Young. 

Yea well the top of this class isn't deep, so everyone is a reach.

[Swaggasaurus]

3 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

That seems like a compromise you shouldn’t have to make at 8. He might end up a decent player but I don’t any reason to compromise at 8. The same thing happened with Bryce Young. 

It’s all word salad for people who are caught up on measurements. Watch the tape. He’s an edge rusher, but gives you an added bonus of rushing inside or spying on obvious passing downs. He’s also tenacious in pursuit from everywhere. The role will be similar to Micah Parsons role in Dallas. It’s not a real/project, tweener deal. 

[LinvilleGorge]

16 minutes ago, Donald LaFell said:

That seems like a compromise you shouldn’t have to make at 8. He might end up a decent player but I don’t any reason to compromise at 8. The same thing happened with Bryce Young. 

If you don't want to compromise with an edge rusher you better be drafting top 3. You don't find Julius Peppers ideal prototypes at #8. It's why I lamented winning those games at the end of the year. Now we pay the cost.

[Loyalty4Life]

Why are people acting like there is a path to winning the draft?

Is doesn't matter if you're drafting on measurables, college production or potential, especially in the top half of the first round.  Teams with all the resources in the world hit on a top 10 picks roughly about 40% of the time.

This doesn't mean teams can't get some advantage.  Teams are slightly better than random chance at selecting the right player that will be average or better in the NFL.

I really like Walker but I've put some time in researching Mykel Williams and there is a lot to like. 

Physical traits are off the chart.
He's 20 and already very good.
He has a low snap count because Georgia is deep so they rotate a lot of elite talent.  This also bears out historically as many Georgia players have better NFL stats.
He gets consistent pressure relative to his snap count.
Really good against the run.
Perfect fit for Evero and our defensive system.
Canales and thus the Panthers are a developmental type coaching staff. 
Lines up every everywhere from 4i to edge.  (4i is inside the tackles inside shoulder and shows big time hybrid DT skills, again is perfect for Evero)
In the SEC title game against Texas he had 2 sacks and 5 qb pressure.

I'd love him here as a Panther.
 

[Captain Morgan]

so Mykel the project or a guy who is ready to start game 1 and start making plays from the start?  Easy choice to me.  We can get another edge in rd 2.

[Loyalty4Life]

If we knew what players are ready to start game 1 or are worthy of a top ten pick we would not be having this conversation. 

It's such as easy choice that teams spend millions of dollar to help make the decision and can still only do a little better than random chance. 

I don't think he's as much of a project as people think due to snap count and how Georgia rotates players.

[Joe Bear]

Charlie has the Panthers picking three Texas players. Carolina Longhorns?