Barnidge / Rosario out wide?

[MadHatter]

Yes, I am bringing this up again.

I don't believe as an offensive coordinator, you let such talent go to waste on the bench because of the letters beside the players names. We saw Jeff King out wide last week, mainly to motion in and block on running plays.

So why not Barnidge and/or Rosario out wide?

I asked them about it at lunch this week. They both kind of gave me that look like they would like to really comment but couldn't. Rosario only said that "we know all the plays" in half agreement with me.

I just want to see it once. Moore under center with Williams as a single back. Smitty out to the right wide, King on the line, Rosario in the left slot, Barnidge out on the left wide. Great pass catching talent out there, but if you need to audible a run you have 3 TE's out there blocking for you. Those two guys are massive. I am 6'2 200lbs and felt like a third grader standing next to them. I can imagine how a 5'10 180 CB would feel. lol

Maybe I will draw it up on a napkin and send it up to the booth Sunday.

Even if someone had their doubts about our TE's being successful matched up against CB's, the ineptness of our passing game lately woudl lead one to believe that it is definitely worth a try.

What the hell does Fox/Davidson have to lose? It's not like they could be any less effective as Jarrett/LaFell has been.

[TarPanther9180]

They will line them up in the slots every now and then. I do wish they draw up better TE passing plays. I think Barnidge would go off in in Indy with Manning, much like Dallas Clark. However, I do not think they would work as full time WRs. Too slow to be a threat. Plus every player wants to be in a playmaker position. I'm sure Jordan Gross knows all the RB plays and would love to play it, but it ain't happening

[House]

Well, I was fairly happy to see the Panthers running out of a 3 WR set last week. Unforuanately they never established any real passing threat out of that formation to open the run game up with it. I really think with Lafell and Jarrett running out of a 3 WR set could be a great option for us, but they are going to have to establish some kind of passing threat to make it successful. Once the D starts spreading the field to cover the pass then the run game could be dominate out of that formation.

Spreading out 2 TE's wide with Smith would probably be a good formation to SHIFT INTO on short yardage and inside the 10-15 yard area. The chaos it could cause on the D could be enough alone to break open something.

Mostly though, even as atheletic as Rosario and Barnidge are, TE's on DB's is a mismatch because of lateral agility and initial quickness. Wouldn't mind seeing it just to test it out and it would be worth a shot to try, I would be hesitant to say that it could be a dominate formation. There is a reason that nobody in the NFL ever really does it.

[TarPanther9180]

why not?

and btw was this thread motivated in any way by your desire to share the "lunch date" information or are you really this enamoured with the three TE wide set?

jk

Do you always sound like a weird jealous school girl?

If I got to have lunch with any of the Panthers, I would probably be giddy for a few days. I would probably come post a page long play by play analysis of the whole event. lol

[Kettle]

Keep thinking... you'll get there....lol

i got ya now. roster, not jersey. i was thinkin jersey.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

It's not like they could be any less effective as Jarrett/LaFell has been.

Exactly. My biggest gripe with this coaching staff and FO is they don't adapt as things change. They have their formula set in stone and no matter what rules change, what personnel we have, who the opponent, it's always "stick to the plan".

NFL rules change to benefit passing teams... so what, stick to the plan... run run run...

Our WR corps is terrible and numerous guys are available... so what, stick with what we got...

Passing game is totally ineffective... so what, stick to our base formations and outdated stale playbook...

Keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

[Mother Grabber]

Can you imagine a TE blocking a DB on a run play? That would be epic. A smoke to a TE out wide would be funny for the first 5 yds, too.

[rippadonn]

Keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

insanity.

That's why everybody in the league and around the nation are like WTF?

[beastson]

They will line them up in the slots every now and then. I do wish they draw up better TE passing plays. I think Barnidge would go off in in Indy with Manning, much like Dallas Clark. However, I do not think they would work as full time WRs. Too slow to be a threat. Plus every player wants to be in a playmaker position. I'm sure Jordan Gross knows all the RB plays and would love to play it, but it ain't happening

Thats why I say let Rosario go, cause King is used for our run blocking

Some time they can line up as WR, but Rosario lined up as receiver too much last week

[Future of the Funchise]

I'm all for it. It works for me on madden. Lol

[magnus]

we've already done this.

If you're asking why not put Rosario at full time WR, well, because we already have enough problems.

[Mr. Scot]

Yeah. The skill sets don't match, and the matchups don't really work.

Neither is fast enough to be a speed receiver, nor physical enough to be a physical receiver. That leaves you with using them as possession receivers, and if that's what you get, why bother moving them from tight end?

I understand the idea. Just don't buy that it'd work.

[magnus]

it works for a few things - you can draw a corner on the TE, which leaves an actual receiver more open (if not a WR, if there's not two in, the back), or it brings a LB outside of formation (blitz prevention, running matchups), or you bring a safety out (rare).

All can be good things but no one does this every play. We do it, so I don't know if a lack of imagination is the concern.

[Mr. Scot]

it works for a few things - you can draw a corner on the TE, which leaves an actual receiver more open (if not a WR, if there's not two in, the back), or it brings a LB outside of formation (blitz prevention, running matchups), or you bring a safety out (rare).

All can be good things but no one does this every play. We do it, so I don't know if a lack of imagination is the concern.

Valid, but with receivers that no one is scared of, not to mention protection issues, is it really of any value?