Why 2010 Means Nothing to the Carolina Panthers (no smack)

[Peppers90 NC]

no better team for the Panthers to face to turn the season around than those lowly schmucks

[tbf]

you guys also beat the Giants last year 41-9. Now look at last week. That looks like a huge step backwards to me.

[homeblown]

I was going to reply properly, but it's completely pointless.

You aren't creating a topic of discussion, you are putting out your opinions to shoot down any who comments on and then quickly state that it's not smack.

Why don't you actually respond to the people who HAVE taken the time to respond to your properly, because as of yet you have literally answered only those who have taken you for what your posts have been worth. So I am sorry, but all this is disguised trolling. If you wanted discussion and debate you would respond to the people who are trying to give it to you.

What is even your point?

Carolina is rebuilding?

Carolina sucks more than Tampa?

Carolina has no future?

You seem to jump from one point to another without ever really saying what it is you are coming here for. The most ridiculous aspect is that all your statements are simple opinions, mostly built around you having not heard of said player, so they must be poor.

You write off Clausen before he has had any chance whatsoever, all the while anointing Freeman as the saviour of Tampa. Well that's completely illogical, considering one has played and performed badly, the other has not even played.

You write off John Fox because he is consistent and does not take chances, yet he got us to 1 superbowl, 2 NFC championships and 3 playoff appearances since 2003. If consistent and conservative produces results, how can you argue??? Did it occur to you that there is in fact more ways to win this game? To compound this you claim that we will be in trouble because our roster is hand picked by John Fox who will be gone next season and our roster overhauled again by a new coach. I hate to say it, but if Raheem does not get a good season under his belt this year, he might well be looking for a job the following season. He has done nothing to prove he is an NFL calibre head coach, so you concerns for us should mirror your concerns for Tampa. What's that? In your opinion he and Freeman are the best things to have happened to Tampa...ever?! Shock horror, you think one way about your team, we are bound to think differently, just like this whole post.

All you have done is create a post with lots of imagery like 'staring down a barrel of a gun' to try and sound more important and as if you are making a great point.

The ridiculous thing about all this is that you have already spelled out our future. Our running game.

No coach, no matter what philosophy, would change the blocking schemes and personal that have created such a feared running attack. It would be completely pointless. You know what else? JR wouldn't hire someone who would just throw away all the commodities he was given, simply because he wanted a WC offense. JR picks his HC very carefully and this whole topic will fall flat on it's face if he promotes from within, because then the schemes will only very slightly change.

So your doom prophecies are kinda mute, because our core is already set, all we need is someone to refine it and make it modern. What Tampa had to do was completely rebuild and you guys are more than a pass rushing DE, RB and RT who does not false start away from contending, especially if Raheem continues to look like a lost puppy.

Oh and you've never heard of Jon Beason? Are you deaf? Blind? Ignorant? NFL network loves his nuts, the public love his nuts by electing him to the pro bowl twice and his peers love his nuts. Not to mention your ignorance of Jordan Gross who ha been voted an All Pro and to numerous pro bowls. So when you have a top 10 LB, WR, LT, RB and a potential franchise QB (not talking Peyton, just someone who will consistently have a 85+ QB rating), you are really not far off at all.

Sigh, why did I bother, you are only going to act like a moron...

And yet, no response to the obvious. This has summed up this thread

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Yeah that totally had nothing to do with Monty Kiffin telling the defense a couple of days before the game that he was leaving to go Coach with his idiot son in Tennessee. I'm sure losing their defensive coordinator of 13 years on a whim had no effect on the 4 game losing skid.

Oh, so the defense's collective feelings were hurt because Kiffin left.

I guess we're in trouble now that Kiffin's back and Tampa's defense looked so good against the Browns.

Wait, what?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Weird. We think your team is beatable.

nds.

Of course you do. Hence the need to come over and discuss it.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I love how the premise of this thread is that rebuilding is a critical process, and yet it also means the 2010 season means nothing for the Panthers.

Gotta love that logic!

[CharlotteBeer.com]

Of course you do. Hence the need to come over and discuss it.

And yet I've never felt the need to venture over to the Bucs board and make a thread about how their season means nothing. Maybe after the Panthers beat a team like the Browns I'll feel justified in doing so.

[Proudiddy]

Ironic, you beat the Browns, and suddenly in one week's time, your poo don't stink. So you're out of rebuilding mode now and can look down on us? smh...

[Swashbuckler]

Back to the bus after your loss on sunday .. come on now man you beat the Browns .. the Browns.. Nobody has bragging rights until at least week 6. You can talk about how the team is young,improving yada yada but the fact remains that until it's seen in the W-L Column nobody will believe it.

You might as well have said hey im gonna do exactly what i did last year .. as a Gamecock fan I can say it for you; " Wait till next year". All you are doing is blabbing at the mouth to a crowd of other teams fans that don't care about your teams "potential" no offense to you. I just want to give it to you straight.

Fair enough. I'll give it to you straight we aren't losing on Sunday because we are better team than you are. And you ought to start caring. This marks the last time you all can reasonably believe you can beat us. May God help you if Stewart and Williams cannot rush for 200+ yards because I certainly don't see your passing game doing anything.

I never made my team out to be better than it is, only that we are good enough to beat you. I've already stated we will finish 6-10 or 7-9. Realistically, you should be hoping for the same.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I think you are going to see all kinds of pressure on Freeman this Sunday. The line didn't do much against New York, but we've got some young pass rushers who showed they were capable in the preseason.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

And yet I've never felt the need to venture over to the Bucs board and make a thread about how their season means nothing. Maybe after the Panthers beat a team like the Browns I'll feel justified in doing so.

I look forward to seeing you there.

GO BUCS!!!!!!!

[AcousticSoup]

Oh, so the defense's collective feelings were hurt because Kiffin left.

I guess we're in trouble now that Kiffin's back and Tampa's defense looked so good against the Browns.

Wait, what?

Tampa's defense did look good against the Browns. The first half, our free safety went for the pick and took a bad angle and that's how Massoquoi got his TD. The second touchdown came after two big runs.

We completely shut them down in the second half and behind a pretty good offensive line, they couldn't do anything.

We have a middle to our defensive line now, and the speed to get to the edge. Carolina can't pass the ball. How exactly will that work?

[SCMunnerlyn1]

Fair enough. I'll give it to you straight we aren't losing on Sunday because we are better team than you are. And you ought to start caring. This marks the last time you all can reasonably believe you can beat us. May God help you if Stewart and Williams cannot rush for 200+ yards because I certainly don't see your passing game doing anything.

I never made my team out to be better than it is, only that we are good enough to beat you. I've already stated we will finish 6-10 or 7-9. Realistically, you should be hoping for the same.

Its not a hard formula .. ill break it down .. Run,Run,Run,Run,Run,Play-Action,Run, Screen to smith , Deep to smith .. Run some more .. It's not like we do any special passing anyway .. we've never had a problem throwing smith a short ball and letting him go. This game comes down to our defense alone.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

We have a middle to our defensive line now, and the speed to get to the edge. Carolina can't pass the ball. How exactly will that work?

It will work the same way the Carolina Panthers have always "worked" against the Bucs. We will run the ball effectively enough to set up play action passes to Steve Smith.

Listen, we Carolina fans know we don't have much at the receiver position outside of Smith. We have some young guys who have shown potential, but right now it is just that.

Do not be surprised to see us toss the ball to our tight ends and running backs. We have some guys in Barnidge, Rosario and Goodson who I think can step up and catch a few passes while these young receivers develop.