Hahaha Jerry, you're facing a potential blackout on Sunday

[Panthers128]

After the performance against the Giants, I completely understand some people not wanting to go to the games. The NFL is a product and the Panthers right now are a piece of garbage. Winning games isn't important but competing is. When Jordan Gross doesn't try to block or when Matt Moore lobs one into Five Guys or when Charles Godfrey takes a play off and gives the team a 30-50 yard run, that shows a complete disrespect to the game and to the fans.

When players like Deangelo Williams are not resigned, when no lucrative free agents are brought in (screw big names, how about someone who has done more than special teams in his NFL Career? how about someone whos resume lists more than making smoothies?) and when the team drafts people like Armanti Edwards it suggests the team is not committed to being competitive and/or is poorly ran.

[Floppin]

When players like Deangelo Williams are not resigned.... and when the team drafts people like Armanti Edwards it suggests the team is not committed to being competitive and/or is poorly ran.

Can I borrow that crystal ball you've got?

[Panthers128]

Can I borrow that crystal ball you've got?

You don't need a crystal ball to know Armanti Edwards sucks. Steve Smith didn't play like a scared little girl when he arrived from Utah.

And I doubt Dwill will be signed during the season. This predicting the future argument is getting so old, I heard it from the 'brass' here during the off season, before the draft, after the draft, before the preseason etc. They finally shut up now that they see what was obvious.

You draft 3 Qbs and bring in special teamers. Yeah, that'll win you a lot of games.

Greg Hardy's awesome though, and I don't need a crystal ball to know that either.

[Kettle]

it is difficult to be optimistic about this season, and JR has done little to nothing to change that.

[The Saltman]

You don't need a crystal ball to know Armanti Edwards sucks. Steve Smith didn't play like a scared little girl when he arrived from Utah.

And I doubt Dwill will be signed during the season. This predicting the future argument is getting so old, I heard it from the 'brass' here during the off season, before the draft, after the draft, before the preseason etc. They finally shut up now that they see what was obvious.

You draft 3 Qbs and bring in special teamers. Yeah, that'll win you a lot of games.

Greg Hardy's awesome though, and I don't need a crystal ball to know that either.

This is the first ever post of yours that I agree with.

[Kettle]

i would have pied it if i had any

[Floppin]

You don't need a crystal ball to know Armanti Edwards sucks. Steve Smith didn't play like a scared little girl when he arrived from Utah.

And I doubt Dwill will be signed during the season. This predicting the future argument is getting so old, I heard it from the 'brass' here during the off season, before the draft, after the draft, before the preseason etc. They finally shut up now that they see what was obvious.

You draft 3 Qbs and bring in special teamers. Yeah, that'll win you a lot of games.

Greg Hardy's awesome though, and I don't need a crystal ball to know that either.

When has Edwards played like a scared girl other than the first Preseason game when he was completely out of sorts?

Anyone claiming to know one way or the other about DWills contract after this year is doing nothing more than guessing. Ohhh noooos his contract is up!!!! Guess what, so is half our teams.

I'll agree that Greg Hardy is very good though.

[PantherBrew]

You don't need a crystal ball to know Armanti Edwards sucks. Steve Smith didn't play like a scared little girl when he arrived from Utah.

Sly, this comment is a little ridiculous, being uncomfortable playing a new position at the highest possible level is far different than playing like a scared little girl.

I watched him for four years, and he was one of the toughest players and least scared players I have seen, and no not just against "high school teams", but against NC State, Michigan and LSU. I know, this is where you call me an App homer.

To make a definitive statement about someone changing positions in their first year in the league is laughable.

Dont let your hate make you say retarded things.

[Fiz]

The people bitching now about us shedding overpriced vets (most of whom are still in the unemployment line) are the same ones that bitched two years ago when we brought back 21 of 22 starters.

Do you have any proof of this or is just an irrefutable twat discharge you start off a bad post with?

Fans want to see big spending and FA acquisitions.

Lol yes, fans, the monolithic entity

However, history has shown that the NFL teams that are successful are those that build through the draft and develop young players.

"building through the draft" is a poo ton different than "using free agency to acquire solidify positions."

I mean you could have an idea of what you're talking about. Then you'd know that last year's Saints didn't acquire Shockey, Brees, Sharper, Porter, Fujita, Vilma, or Shanle through the draft. And you can generally go back and do this for every team.

We may struggle this season, but this team will be much better positioned for the future.

Until the owner decides that he wants to spend money on the team and continue setting an example that no one else will follow, no, they will not.

Washington has historically made big splashes and overspend on vets. That has gotten them absolutely nothing.

They also haven't drafted well on top of it, go through coaches like most people go through underwear, and are a terribly run franchise, but go ahead and blame it all on ONE THING JUST ONE THING HERE IS THE THING

The Jets have tried that this season...and they laid a big f**king egg on Mon Night....and will go 0-2 after this week-end.

That number 1 defense and rushing game last year that went to the AFC Championship game MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE YOU LOST TO THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFL BY THREE POINTS I AM MADHATTER BOW BEFORE ME MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The Patriots develop through the draft and have won championships.

Moss, Welker, Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, Leigh Bodden, Damione Lewis.

That's to say nothing about the fact that this team signs every single aging free agent they can get their hands on, and we might as well put Seau on there right now because they'll need him eventually.

Go check out the roster of the SB contender GBay. They has build through the draft and developed their young players. They went through a few lean years to do it, but it pays off.

Green Bay also has probably the best QB in the league and their defense will fall apart like it did last year because they don't have a single ounce of depth at any position other than wide receiver.

People who think that JR is tanking this season to save money are ill informed.

how about from the owners mouth?

The owners, particularly a faction of aggressive, entrepreneurial Goodell confidants (Jerry Jones, Robert Kraft, Pat Bowlen, Jerry Richardson) who want a CBA that accounts for the high-risk investments they’ve made on new stadiums and other capital expenditures. For the most part, the owners are unified in their belief that they agreed to a lousy deal when the current CBA was extended in 2006, and that the players currently receive too great a share of their adjusted gross revenues. At last March’s NFL owners meeting in Orlando, Fla., the Carolina Panthers’ Richardson gave a fiery speech in which he exhorted his peers to “take back our league” by forcing a more favorable deal down the throats of the players. This is likely to be accomplished in the form of a lockout, though it’s possible that the owners could opt for a milder approach: negotiating to impasse and imposing terms of their choosing, which might compel the players to strike. DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA’s executive director, is convinced that a lockout is coming, and a majority of his constituents – many of whom are more engaged and informed than is commonly perceived – share this belief.

boy that sure sounds like someone who has committed to putting a winning product on the field.

basically you've created an extreme false dichotomy (building through draft v free agency), chosen your side, then attacked the straw man you've created with a bunch of terribly worded generalizations, half truths, and misleading horse poo.

You are a terrible poster with terrible ideas and you just spent a whole lot of time putting yourself on tee for the first poster with three brain cells to rub together.

Log off, never come back, stop posting on the internet, convert to islam, blow yourself up, fail to rise to the occasion when you get your virgins

[Panthers128]

I stand by my comments on Edwards just like I stand by the comments I've made on Jarrett in the past.

If Edwards does improve and make me look like a fool, I'll be ecstatic. Otherwise we wasted a high draft pick . Main problem with Edwards is he seems undersized (not just height but doesn't seem strong) and hasn't seemed that fast on the field to me (i realize punt returners have to wait for the hole).

I'm not saying the team should cut him, but he's shown me no reason to believe he will contribute to the team in any significant way in the future.

Also I never suggested we're not bringing Dwill back, I just don't like or best offensive player not getting an extension right away. You reward players for performing, especially when they are as classy and hardworking as Dwill. I assume he would have the franchise tag placed on him (assuming it exists after the lockout) if they didn't work out a deal).

[blackcatgrowl]

Do you have any proof of this or is just an irrefutable twat discharge you start off a bad post with?

Lol yes, fans, the monolithic entity

"building through the draft" is a poo ton different than "using free agency to acquire solidify positions."

I mean you could have an idea of what you're talking about. Then you'd know that last year's Saints didn't acquire Shockey, Brees, Sharper, Porter, Fujita, Vilma, or Shanle through the draft. And you can generally go back and do this for every team.

Until the owner decides that he wants to spend money on the team and continue setting an example that no one else will follow, no, they will not.

They also haven't drafted well on top of it, go through coaches like most people go through underwear, and are a terribly run franchise, but go ahead and blame it all on ONE THING JUST ONE THING HERE IS THE THING

That number 1 defense and rushing game last year that went to the AFC Championship game MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE YOU LOST TO THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFL BY THREE POINTS I AM MADHATTER BOW BEFORE ME MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Moss, Welker, Fred Taylor, Sammy Morris, Leigh Bodden, Damione Lewis.

That's to say nothing about the fact that this team signs every single aging free agent they can get their hands on, and we might as well put Seau on there right now because they'll need him eventually.

Green Bay also has probably the best QB in the league and their defense will fall apart like it did last year because they don't have a single ounce of depth at any position other than wide receiver.

how about from the owners mouth?

boy that sure sounds like someone who has committed to putting a winning product on the field.

basically you've created an extreme false dichotomy (building through draft v free agency), chosen your side, then attacked the straw man you've created with a bunch of terribly worded generalizations, half truths, and misleading horse poo.

You are a terrible poster with terrible ideas and you just spent a whole lot of time putting yourself on tee for the first poster with three brain cells to rub together.

Log off, never come back, stop posting on the internet, convert to islam, blow yourself up, fail to rise to the occasion when you get your virgins

This post delivers

[Floppin]

Green Bay also has probably the best QB in the league and their defense will fall apart like it did last year because they don't have a single ounce of depth at any position other than wide receiver.

Put someone down for making baseless conjectures by making a baseless future conjecture. Congrats you win!

how about from the owners mouth?

Actually the only part of that from the owners mouth is "Take back our league". The rest is paraphrased out of context horse crap from a beat writer. Lord knows we all take them at their word around here.

[Hairless Cat]

basically you've created an extreme false dichotomy (building through draft v free agency), chosen your side, then attacked the straw man you've created with a bunch of terribly worded generalizations, half truths, and misleading horse poo.

You are a terrible poster with terrible ideas and you just spent a whole lot of time putting yourself on tee for the first poster with three brain cells to rub together.

Log off, never come back, stop posting on the internet, convert to islam, blow yourself up, fail to rise to the occasion when you get your virgins

and change that damn puke inspiring avatar of yours! ...... makes me sick to my stomach! ( said in whiney mark levin voice) :smilielol5:

[cdandi1]

there is alot of bitching in this thread about the FO..after one game. Y'all bitched about the qb last season, and the they go get a qb in the draft. Y'all whine about the defensive line, they go get greg hardy. The cheese platter is in the back left of harris teeter for you whiners.