That United Owner Front is looking great Jerry.

[Kurb]

Yes.

Let us pretend that they do get a CBA done and the cap is about where it already is supposed to be according to the old CBA.

We re-sign Beason, Kalil, Marshal, and Johnson. Matt Moore has a breakout year and we sign him too. That means Davis and Williams are gone. Godfrey, Connor, Leonard, Anderson, Otah, Stewart, King, Bernadeu, and Brayton would all also be up for new contracts/extensions. Those are secondary so we won't fret them too much.

That is a lot of players to re-sign/extend. The cap is not magically going to be $200,000,000 it is going to be on par to what it already was. There is not a lot of money left in there for a guy like Boldin or Marshall.

If the cap is what is expected (could be more) we would have the cap room to do all of that and sign some BIG name dudes. My argument is that's a hell of a gamble. A gamble that if lost really only hurts the Fans.

[bleys]

Yes.

Let us pretend that they do get a CBA done and the cap is about where it already is supposed to be according to the old CBA.

We re-sign Beason, Kalil, Marshal, and Johnson. Matt Moore has a breakout year and we sign him too. That means Davis and Williams are gone. Godfrey, Connor, Leonard, Anderson, Otah, Stewart, King, Bernadeu, and Brayton would all also be up for new contracts/extensions. Those are secondary so we won't fret them too much.

That is a lot of players to re-sign/extend. The cap is not magically going to be $200,000,000 it is going to be on par to what it already was. There is not a lot of money left in there for a guy like Boldin or Marshall.

if Drafting is our philosophy, you'll have to draft successfully in positions your good at and not the ones your bad at..

sign a WR and fill the role players through the draft... since we are good at others and HORRIBLE at WR.. usually, then, WR would be the one you want to shore up through FA... it's 1 guy.. not 15..

JMO... usually that's the better philosophy...

[KillerKat]

we don't have huge holes like those other teams.. I feel pretty good about our team.. but a WR could have been addressed this year with 2 great options and we failed, as we have failed the last 6 or 7 years, to bring in a solid receiver..

to say we need to spend like those other teams isn't really what the issue is.. we could have brought in 1 great FA acquisition...

Exactly. F**k Fox. F**k Hurney. F**k JR. F**k 'em all.

I didn't buy into this whole idea mentioned in the OP until we trimmed our roster down to 53 and cut many players that were better than the ones we are currently keeping.

Then Housh was right there on the market and cheap as hell too. Yeah Housh said he wanted to go to the best contender but with how cheap of a contract he signed, if we threw out some bigger bucks than what the Ravens gave him there might have been a better chance of us getting him. I'm not sure if Boldin was obtainable, but looking at our roster and how much money we have saved this season I think we could've at least offered him a decent contract.

All of that while thinking back to the draft and drafting essentially 2 projects at WR and another WR that will take time to develop when we could've selected better receivers and not hearing 1 single peep that we even tried to sign better players at WR this offseason, I can understand the frustration towards the FO and Im right there with them.

[Kevin Greene]

I realize your point.. but to expand on what others always seem to bring up as problems... that doesn't prove it was impossible.. smart people figure out solutions.. that's why half this forum will never accomplish poo in real life.. all they see are problems..

(no offense to anyone.. )

What would your solution be?

Having Boldin means signing him to a 4 year $28 million dolllar contract which is what it took for the Ravens to make him happy and essentially sending Brandon Lefell and Eric Norwood to the Cardinals.

Boldin at 4yr/28 mill

Or Lefell and Norwood

We don't just crap draft picks at will.

[Kurb]

actually KG I would take that deal.

[GRWatcher]

Boldin I just don't think was worth the money for a team that doesn't throw the ball that much.

Where does this crappy logic come from? :shocked: Maybe if we don't throw the ball that much that means that every pass has to count for more than if we did. That's crazy logic too. Every pass counts. Period.

I just hope that our WR's-not-named-Steve-Smith don't look as clueless and inept as Minnesota's did in the 2nd half of Thursday's game.

I agree with Kurb and I've been saying it since the draft. Playing devil's advocate, looking at the situation from different angles. JR feels he has a point to prove, that IMO is his bottom line. Saving a shitload of money in the meantime because THERE IS NO CAP, well, that's just icing on the cake.

I didn't buy into this whole idea mentioned in the OP until we trimmed our roster down to 53 and cut many players that were better than the ones we are currently keeping.

lol Good morning!

[Kevin Greene]

actually KG I would take that deal.

Yeah, I should have said the opportunity to take a pick at those spots.

[Squirrel]

If the cap is what is expected (could be more) we would have the cap room to do all of that and sign some BIG name dudes. My argument is that's a hell of a gamble. A gamble that if lost really only hurts the Fans.

I cant see the cap staying the same. To many variables right now.

The owners want 18 regular season games.

To do 18 games the players want more players.

The owners say they are pinched now and not making enough. But they already charge regular season prices for preseason games. The only additional income would be from TV and raising prices.

The owners want the cap lowered so the players pie will be alot smaller.

The rookies need a cap but will the vets agree.

[Kevin Greene]

I cant see the cap staying the same. To many variables right now.

The owners want 18 regular season games.

To do 18 games the players want more players.

The owners say they are pinched now and not making enough. But they already charge regular season prices for preseason games. The only additional income would be from TV and raising prices.

The owners want the cap lowered so the players pie will be alot smaller.

The rookies need a cap but will the vets agree.

Damn that stinks like a holdout/lockout.

[Zaximus]

Kurb, I never thought you and I would be so far apart on an opinion.

Let's wait until how the season plays out. And let's see what the long game brings. I don't buy that he's tanking the season to save money, I think he feels good about his team. And I think that we're in a position to re-sign all our guys if need be, even if the salary cap goes down 20%.

I would have loved to see another Keyshawn-style signing, it would be fun to talk about and it could have brought some excitement. But it didn't happen, and if memory serves that one didn't work out well anyway.

Huh? You mean the year that Keyshawn, as a #2 WR with JAKE throwing to him put up 815 yards and 4 TD's and played all 16 games? That's what a #2 does. But what did JR do? Blow his load on DJ and cut Keyshawn, well it didn't work out. Keyshawn was exactly what you wanted a #2 WR to be actually.

[Kevin Greene]

Huh? You mean the year that Keyshawn, as a #2 WR with JAKE throwing to him put up 815 yards and 4 TD's and played all 16 games? That's what a #2 does. But what did JR do? Blow his load on DJ and cut Keyshawn, well it didn't work out. Keyshawn was exactly what you wanted a #2 WR to be actually.

To be fair Meshawn was done after 2006 with the Panthers, never playing another down in the NFL.

[Zaximus]

To be fair Meshawn was done after 2006 with the Panthers, never playing another down in the NFL.

He would have played with us for at least another season, actually.

[Swarly]

the only change I think absolutely needs to happen is a rookie salary cap.

[KillerKat]

Housh, Boldin, any other big name WR FA this year > Keyshawn in 2006