Everybody always yearns for the '03 Panthers, look at the key players from '03

[Jackofalltrades]

Cyber = Checkmate.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I'll take your "key players" and put them against my "key players" from that squad any day of the week.

Julius Peppers - Drafted

Kris Jenkins - Drafted

Dan Morgan - Drafted

Steve Smith - Drafted

Mike Rucker - Drafted

Mike Minter - Drafted

Moose - Drafted

Hoover - UDFA signee

Jordan Gross - Drafted

Will Witherspoon - Drafted

Kris Mangum - Drafted

Jeno James - Drafted

DeShaun Foster - Drafted

Ricky Manning Jr. - Drafted

Dante Wesley - Drafted

Nick Goings - UDFA signee

Lester Towns - Drafted

Deon Grant - Drafted

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy. I never once argued against playing your own guys or that it's nice to have quality players that you drafted. Please try rereading my original post where I clearly talked about how a MIX is key. It was a key to the Saints last year and it was a key to this team back in the days where it was still winning playoff games.

[DickolausJ]

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy. I never once argued against playing your own guys or that it's nice to have quality players that you drafted. Please try rereading my original post where I clearly talked about how a MIX is key. It was a key to the Saints last year and it was a key to this team back in the days where it was still winning playoff games.

Some Free Agents pick ups on Our Team Now:

Matt Moore

Wallace Wright

Tyrell Sutton

Charly Martin

Louis Leonard

Jamar Williams

Tyler Brayton

Marcus Hudson

Jordan Senn

Derek Landri

Ed Johnson

Nic Harris

Tim Duckworth

Jason Baker

Aaron Fransisco

You Know whats cool about that list? Only one of those players is 32 and he's a Punter.

[Cyberjag]

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy. I never once argued against playing your own guys or that it's nice to have quality players that you drafted. Please try rereading my original post where I clearly talked about how a MIX is key. It was a key to the Saints last year and it was a key to this team back in the days where it was still winning playoff games.

And two people have pointed out that we have a mix already.

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing, it's to post the obvious as if it's a huge problem with the current team, while ignoring various inconvenient facts.

[Sam Mills Fan]

I also find it very funny that I provided 16 names, while the other guy provided 18 names. Thank you for proving my point that a MIX is key, since we're talking about roughly the same number of players from both camps. You could add John Kasay (free agent) and Todd Sauerbrun (trade) on my list and you have an exactly equal number.

[Cyberjag]

I also find it very funny that I provided 16 names, while the other guy provided 18 names. Thank you for proving my point that a MIX is key, since we're talking about roughly the same number of players from both camps. You could add John Kasay (free agent) and Todd Sauerbrun (trade) on my list and you have an exactly equal number.

You're right. I guess that a thread titled "Hey guys, we have a good mix now, just like in 2003" just doesn't seem as exciting, huh?

[Sam Mills Fan]

Some Free Agents pick ups on Our Team Now:

Matt Moore

Wallace Wright

Tyrell Sutton

Charly Martin

Louis Leonard

Jamar Williams

Tyler Brayton

Marcus Hudson

Jordan Senn

Derek Landri

Ed Johnson

Nic Harris

Tim Duckworth

Jason Baker

Aaron Fransisco

You Know whats cool about that list? Only one of those players is 32 and he's a Punter.

A list of cheap scrubs isn't going to put this team into the playoffs. There are only 4 possible starters on that list anyway, the rest are on IR or buried on the depth chart

[Sam Mills Fan]

I don't know why you guys are trying to pretend we have a mix today. Charlie Dayton was just crowing about how heavily tilted we are towards the draft picks on Twitter today: "35 draft choices on Panthers final 53-player roster; appears to rank in top three in the League, but teams are still tweaking final rosters" (http://twitter.com/cldayton)

[Jase]

A list of cheap scrubs isn't going to put this team into the playoffs. There are only 4 possible starters on that list anyway, the rest are on IR or buried on the depth chart

Jake Delhomme: Free agent signee (starter)

Stephen Davis: Free agent signee (starter)

Ricky Proehl: Free agent signee (slot receiver)

Brentson Buckner: Free agent signee (starter)

Jeff Mitchell: Free agent signee (starter)

Todd Steussie: Free agent signee (starter)

Kevin Donnalley: Free agent signee (starter)

Terry Cousin: Free agent signee (starter)

Reggie Howard: Free agent signee (starter)

Rod Smart: Free agent signee (last guy to return a kickoff for TD in team history)

Shane Burton: Free agent signee (key rotation guy on the d-line)

Al Wallace: Free agent signee (key rotation guy on the d-line)

Greg Favors: Free agent signee (starter)

Karl Hankton: Free agent signee (special teams ace)

Rodney Peete: Free agent signee (backup quarterback)

Jermaine Wiggins: Free agent signee (starter)

almost all of these were as unheralded as our list this year.

SMF = walking contradiction once again

[Cyberjag]

A list of cheap scrubs isn't going to put this team into the playoffs. There are only 4 possible starters on that list anyway, the rest are on IR or buried on the depth chart

What point are you trying to make in this thread?

Moore, Leonard, Baker, Brayton, and Landri are sure starters. Williams, Hudson, Johnson, and Sutton will all play key roles.

[Sam Mills Fan]

To the guys that are currently arguing against my thread right now: You're currently arguing that we have been active in free agency apparently. I want you to take a step back, get some fresh air, chug down a Shasta, ignore that it's me that's posting this, and think about how stupid that argument is.

Do you REALLY want to use guys like Tim Duckworth to "prove" that we have lots of key free agents on this roster?

[Sam Mills Fan]

What point are you trying to make in this thread?

Moore, Leonard, Baker, Brayton, and Landri are sure starters. Williams, Hudson, Johnson, and Sutton will all play key roles.

Leonard and Baker arrived through trades. Moore and Landri were waiver claims. Tyler Brayton is the ONLY true free agent signee that will be starting for us this season.

Jamar Williams came here through trade, Sutton was claimed off waivers. That leaves us with THE Marcus Hudson and Ed Johnson.

Tyler Brayton

Marcus Hudson

Ed Johnson

^ That's your real list. One starter, one guy that we hope can contribute on special teams, and a backup. My, my, what a mix.

[Jase]

To the guys that are currently arguing against my thread right now: You're currently arguing that we have been active in free agency apparently.

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy.

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy.

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy.

If the Huddle knows how to do one thing well, it's to always fall back to the scarecrow logical fallacy.

[Cyberjag]

To the guys that are currently arguing against my thread right now: You're currently arguing that we have been active in free agency apparently. I want you to take a step back, get some fresh air, chug down a Shasta, ignore that it's me that's posting this, and think about how stupid that argument is.

Do you REALLY want to use guys like Tim Duckworth to "prove" that we have lots of key free agents on this roster?

Just because we haven't been active as far as big names are concerned in this offseason doesn't mean we haven't been inactive overall. We didn't sign all those guys you mentioned between 2002 and 2003, we did like we've always done and filled in spots, largely with players who hadn't made much impact elsewhere.

Davis was the exception to that rule, and he gave us a great year. Proehl was old and done, the big WR signing that year was supposed to be Kevin Dyson. Jake was a backup UDFA in New Orleans.

This year we've got FA starters at several positions, and as in 2003 they've been acquired along the way, not all at once. They've also been used to augment our draft picks, not to replace them.

So what's your point again?