Most brutal song ever

[Lumps]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's uncreative. In fact most of this growling nonsense you post takes pretty much no creativity in the lyric department. Metal will and always has been about the musician and the instrument, not what is 'more hardcore'. Reading music is just as if not more hard than just free styling it which a lot of metal is btw. It's and old and redundant argument trying to say your metal is the hardest and the best and everything else is soft music soft pop. Your not original, it's an old ego inflating argument really.

All these bands you listed if you ever met them, you would probably be surprised to what they really listened too, or even influenced by. You think all these musicians learned their instruments by metal only LOL. I have met a lot of metal musicians and talked to them. They would think your an idiot for trying to hate on someone else 'music art'. As a real musician you learn to respect what they are doing and you must the humble enough to realize there is something you can learn from ALL these musicians. Only then can you become closer to being 'the best'.

Sorry man but I used to hear people like you at shows I played at all the time and it's pretty fuging stupid. I can assure this opinion based weak concept of what's 'real' and what isn't in metal' was formed by the consumers, not the actual artists and musicians themselves, in fact they might even being insulted. Just thought you would want an view that would probably come from a person in one of these 'real' bands only you are listening to.

Hey SLJ, I played after a band named Swift in NC, heard one song that was pretty good, you find anything on them? They seemed pretty cool dudes....also you shouldn't make excuses for the music you like, it gives you a 'music personality', as long as there is talent (self-lyrics/instruments).

Song I think was called Why or Why do this to me or something like that...

[Samuel L. Jackson]

omfg... Jamie King was/is a member of Swift... and Jamie King is my idol... He produces 90% of the good NC stuff out there nowadays (BTBAM, Wrath and Rapture, Wretched, etc.)...

I heard of Swift a long time ago though... I still have a cassette tape somewhere of a couple of their demos, split with a band from Raleigh called Faceplant...

[DirtyMagic97]

I agree with Kinderfeld. So many people in metal get so caught up in what is "more extreme" or "heavier". The act like being one of those suddenly makes the music better.

There are a few grindcore bands I can tolerate, but for the most part the genre is saturated with tasteless trem picking and dissonant chords. The "vocalists" who possess but one tone are just god awful. And then PSC goes on to say that Lamb of God needs a new vocalist? He is one of the most diverse and fundamentally sound screamers in the business.

Most of these comments lead me to believe that most people have no idea what requires talent. Anyone can be heavy. Not everyone can have talent.

[Samuel L. Jackson]

One of my favorite musicians of all time played with like 4 strings on his guitar...

Max Cavalera...

He isn't all that talented technically, but he comes up with some damn catchy riffs... lol...

To me, it is about the end product... and how well you can perform it live...

Robb Flynn is another example of a talented dude that isn't super technical...

[Lumps]

omfg... Jamie King was/is a member of Swift... and Jamie King is my idol... He produces 90% of the good NC stuff out there nowadays (BTBAM, Wrath and Rapture, Wretched, etc.)...

I heard of Swift a long time ago though... I still have a cassette tape somewhere of a couple of their demos, split with a band from Raleigh called Faceplant...

Oh wow! Good to hear he is making it! Yea I met them 7 or so years ago in Raleigh. Didn't talk to them much but I really digged their song they did. Their drummer was pretty damn good too. Never heard about them again after that. I have found no CDs or ways to get their songs, kinda bummed me out.

[Samuel L. Jackson]

Here's another band I feel is deserving, and could be putting out some good stuff for a few years at least... I've been listening to them a lot lately...

Son of Aurelius

[Samuel L. Jackson]

here you go, kinderfeld

http://www.myspace.com/swiftband

[Lumps]

osnap!!!!!! SLJ thanks man!

myspace should've guessed...I hate myspace, signing up now though...

[Samuel L. Jackson]

[Samuel L. Jackson]

some more "underground" brutality for you... coming straight outta Italy...

Har Har Har, I am the king of br00talz!

[Samuel L. Jackson]

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Nile is another one of those bands I don't like, but I give them tons of respect.

I used to hate them...they just grew on me after awhile and now I honest to God think that "Annihilation of the Wicked" is one of the heaviest albums ever recorded.

Anyway, here's some bands everyone that I know hates.

[Samuel L. Jackson]

another blast from NC metal past

[ItsNotGonnaBeAlright]

Ah, I was just about to bring up those two! Good memories.

Lessee here....