Most brutal song ever

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's uncreative. In fact most of this growling nonsense you post takes pretty much no creativity in the lyric department. Metal will and always has been about the musician and the instrument, not what is 'more hardcore'. Reading music is just as if not more hard than just free styling it which a lot of metal is btw. It's and old and redundant argument trying to say your metal is the hardest and the best and everything else is soft music soft pop. Your not original, it's an old ego inflating argument really.

All these bands you listed if you ever met them, you would probably be surprised to what they really listened too, or even influenced by. You think all these musicians learned their instruments by metal only LOL. I have met a lot of metal musicians and talked to them. They would think your an idiot for trying to hate on someone else 'music art'. As a real musician you learn to respect what they are doing and you must the humble enough to realize there is something you can learn from ALL these musicians. Only then can you become closer to being 'the best'.

Sorry man but I used to hear people like you at shows I played at all the time and it's pretty fuging stupid. I can assure this opinion based weak concept of what's 'real' and what isn't in metal' was formed by the consumers, not the actual artists and musicians themselves, in fact they might even being insulted. Just thought you would want an view that would probably come from a person in one of these 'real' bands only you are listening to.

Hey SLJ, I played after a band named Swift in NC, heard one song that was pretty good, you find anything on them? They seemed pretty cool dudes....also you shouldn't make excuses for the music you like, it gives you a 'music personality', as long as there is talent (self-lyrics/instruments).

Song I think was called Why or Why do this to me or something like that...

Nobody I know likes Death Metal vocals. I listen to death/black/tech/grindcore despite the vocals.

I also listen to poo like this:

So you can take whatever you want from that.

You didn't talk to people like me after shows, because I don't go around talking to people after shows. I watch what's on stage then I gtfo. I've talked to very few bands at shows, one of them being Slipknot, who was opening for Coal Chamber and Machinehead. Both bands were so shitty after watching Slipknot that I went out into the parking lot to hang out and there they were. I talked a little poo with Mic and the rest for a little bit, and never once suggest what they should or shouldn't do with their music because they didn't ask me.

And unless you asked me what I thought about your band, I doubt I'd really tell you what I thought.

Some poo I like, some poo I don't like. And some is just half-assed bullshit. I call it like I see it.

Hatebreed is weak ass poo too.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

I used to hate them...they just grew on me after awhile and now I honest to God think that "Annihilation of the Wicked" is one of the heaviest albums ever recorded.

Anyway, here's some bands everyone that I know hates.

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Hatebreed's problem is they tried to go from hardcore to metal, and failed miserably because as with most hardcore, you can only do so much without it sounding similar...

[Porn Shop Clerk]

lol PSC and I are the resident music elitists of the Huddle, I see... I just have more throwbacks that I listened to back in the day...

IE The Slipknot, the Fear Factory, and the Chimaira post...

You have to remember that those were stepping stones for me into what I listen to now (mostly The Faceless, BTBAM, Beneath the Massacre, and all the local stuff lately), and are a far far cry from the Nirvana/Green Day/Classic Rock I listened to in my middle school years...

FWIW a lot of the deathcore/grindcore, etc bands of today use elements from Fear Factory... Even the mighty Meshuggah has a heavy FF sound influence... Even my favorite guitarist Michael Keene of The Faceless credits my idols growing up like Alan Holdsworth and SRV...

I just don't have time to listen to music I've heard other bands do better. I don't consider myself elitist because I listen to poo that would make most metalheads toes curl.

I still crank up Motley Crue sometimes. I'm sure as fug not gonna put Shout at the Devil in here. Poor Meshuggah. I reaaaaaally liked None and Destroy Erase Improve. I could probably still belt out DEI word for word.

Convalescent livid we sucumb, stagnation now complete.

After that, it just gets less and less enjoyable. The new album was ok, but I'd still prefer a lot more variance in songwriting.

Alan Holdsworth is amazing. Fredrik Thordendahl should just go ahead and credit him with writing all of his solos. And I think Sol Niger Within is better than any Meshuggah album post-DEI.

poo I still throw on Resurrection, one of the few death metal bands I've known to stand the test of time. They put out one album in 93, broke up for 15 years, but the underground popularity remained so strong that they reunited recently. They were a good 10 years ahead of their time and still better than 75% of the bands mentioned in this thread:

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Hatebreed's problem is they tried to go from hardcore to metal, and failed miserably because as with most hardcore, you can only do so much without it sounding similar...

Its formulaic to put it kindly. They sounded amazing live though.

[venom]

[Porn Shop Clerk]

:facepalm:

I like the show, I just wish people would recognize it for what it is.

Sooooo many scenesters I knew went to see Dethklok live. :|

[venom]

:facepalm:

I like the show, I just wish people would recognize it for what it is.

Sooooo many scenesters I knew went to see Dethklok live. :|

agreed however some of those riffs just cannot by denied. sh*t can get pretty epic haha

[Porn Shop Clerk]

I liked the one about the troll. But its session music.

[venom]

ok i guess its time to redeem myself. this vid rawks!

[venom]

and...

[The Link]

This is pop metal:

[Porn Shop Clerk]

What, no Strapping Young Lad?

Children of Bodom?

Plenty of pop metal out there.

[boo7382]

man u guys listen to some hardcore music