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Fox to Cleveland?

Panthro

By Panthro,
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pantherclaw Grand Master

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Quit your hatin' Bob, and try reading the rest of the post. As a Panthers coach, Fox has gone 6-2 in Raymond James stadium. Obviously he likes coaching there, right? :)

And if you're honest about it, you'll realize that Fox is one of the better coaches in the league. But we don't expect that out of you...

Fixed it for ya.

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pantherclaw Grand Master

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that for some reason the panthers have hurt his feelings soooo bad, that he hates on them every possible chance. he must have gotten fired from being an usher or something.... or maybe sir purr

He is basically saying that fox is the worst coach in the league, so anyone with half a brain and any nfl knowledge knows this is plain ignorant.

More likely he's close friends with one of Richardson's sons that got canned. :smilielol5:
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pantherclaw Grand Master

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Fox isn't half the coach some of you give him credit for! And of course Gruden is going to say nice things about him, Gruden is the Paula Abdul of MNF, its his job to say nice things about EVERY ONE...go back and listen to his comentary so far, every team he talks about is going to the playoffs!!!! PLEASE!!! Give a real head coach the talent Foxxy boy has had and we would already have multiple SB's IMO. If only...
Nice opinion.
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Floppin Grand Master

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Just some food for thought, especially for those of you who think that keeping Delhomme starting for as long as he did for the season came from the higher ups.

What would Jake have had to have done in order for it to have been deemed "acceptable" by most of the fans and the media that the panther's release him and his horrible contract. Does it not make sense to give him every chance in the world to turn things around considering his past? On the other side of the coin, does it also not make sense that having seen his early games in the year, and coming to the conclusion that dumping Jake may be the only option for moving forward, that the only way this could be accomplished was to let Jake completely tank a season?

If Jake had been pulled earlier in the year and we had barely made the playoffs and Matt Moore had played decent but not lights out, think about how hard it would have been to rationalize dumping Jake. "He got a sour deal", "He should be allowed to at least compete for the job", "it was one bad season"...rabble rabble rabble.

The only way that it would have been easy for them to drop the contract in that situation is if Moore came out and played like Peyton, and what are the odds of that, especially when he was unproven.

I don't necessarily know, or think that these things are truth, but they could make sense. Just something to think about.

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I don't know about it coming from the higher ups.

I do know without a doubt, that this was Jake Delhomme's team. The locker room supported him, regardless how us fans felt about it.

When you bench a QB that the team supports as much as the team supported Jake, you instantly create a rift. Whether or not the team could have over come that rift, is another debate.

Jake got hurt, and Moore started. He got the offense playing well. Had a couple of 300 yard games against some good defenses. He is a winner. He earned his shot to start, even though the team did stick by Jake for as long as they did.

I can't fault the team for sticking with Jake as long as they did. Do I wish they would have gone to Moore earlier last season? Hell yes I do....but I understand why they didn't. Do I agree with it. Nope, but I understand why they did it.

Do I hate Fox and company for doing it? Nope, they had to do what they had to do to keep the locker room together, cause a split locker room can tear a team apart.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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Fox in Cleveland makes a lot of sense. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

I would.

If Holmgren has a head coach in waiting, it's probably former Panthers and Seahawks OC Gil Haskell, not John Fox.

I'm not so certain that Fox is gone from Carolina next year. But if he is, I doubt it's to Cleveland.

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i'll buy all of these except fisher, turner, childress, and lewis. fox is better than these guys or at least on par with them. turner is overrated. childress is a hack.

i'm no fan of fisher and despite his putting together multiple winning seasons, has no better record than fox and i feel confident saying that fox has done better than fisher. fox has never gone below 7-9. fisher has done that 3 times. also, when looking at their playoff record, despite being an HC 8 more years than fox, he only has 3 more playoff wins.

that isn't saying that fox is a bad coach. i more feel that it means that fisher is a bad coach as well and probably worse. that he has had his job this long is nothing short of miraculous.

Childress and Lewis are equal to Fox but I would put Turner ahead of him only because of what he's done in SD.

While I agree that Fisher is somewhat overrated, I couldnt disagree with you more in calling him a bad coach or saying that Fox is better. I really dont understand everyones infactuation with the whole 7-9 thing. Its still a losing record last time I checked. Its just as bad as going 6-10 or 5-11.

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