Fox to Cleveland?

[Panthro]

I can think of at least 15 HCs that are better than Fox.

Who will you want to replace Fox? Your #1.

[Delhommey]

Fox ran a boring, useless defense under Trgo. Of course Trgo had nothing to do with it because Fox controls everything.

That is until Meeks came in and made the defense wonderful. Fox didn't have anything to do with it because Meeks is wonderful, and Fox has nothing to do with anything wonderful.

Now, Fox runs a boring offense.

[PantherBob]

Name them

Better than Fox:

Ken whisenhunt

Mike Smith

Any Reid

Jeff Fischer

Bill Belichick

Mike Shanahan

John Harbaugh

Sean Payton

Mike McCarthy

Jim Caldwell

Tony Sparono

Tom Coughlin

Rex Ryan

Mike Tomlin

Mike Singletary

Norv turner

equal to Fox:

Childress

Phillips

Lewis

Everyone else is unproven at this point but have the potential to be better than Fox.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Yeah we'll see how great Ken Whisenhunt is with Matt Leinart under center

[PantherBob]

Who will you want to replace Fox? Your #1.

To be honest, Id settle for a mule at this point over Fox.

Off the top of my head Id like to have Lezlie Frasier.

[PhillyB]

Better than Fox:

Ken whisenhunt

Mike Smith

Any Reid

Jeff Fischer

Bill Belichick

Mike Shanahan

John Harbaugh

Sean Payton

Mike McCarthy

Jim Caldwell

Tony Sparono

Tom Coughlin

Rex Ryan

Mike Tomlin

Mike Singletary

Norv turner

equal to Fox:

Childress

Phillips

Lewis

Everyone else is unproven at this point but have the potential to be better than Fox.

what is your criteria for ranking these?

[PantherBrew]

what is your criteria for ranking these?

He is a genius, he doesn't need criteria.

[bLACKpANTHER]

Better than Fox:

Norv turner

/thread

[Peppers90 NC]

This message is hidden because PantherBob is on your ignore list.

Quit your hatin' Bob, and try reading the rest of the post. As a Panthers coach, Fox has gone 6-2 in Raymond James stadium. Obviously he likes coaching there, right?

And if you're honest about it, you'll realize that Fox is one of the better coaches in the league. But we don't expect that on the huddle...

If everyone did that, he would be more frustrated than what he causes everyone else with his asinineness.

[Peppers90 NC]

what is your criteria for ranking these?

that for some reason the panthers have hurt his feelings soooo bad, that he hates on them every possible chance. he must have gotten fired from being an usher or something.... or maybe sir purr

He is basically saying that fox is the worst coach in the league, so anyone with half a brain and any nfl knowledge knows this is plain ignorant.

[Mother Grabber]

Fox in Tampa would be scary. Did you ever stop to think about his winning percentage down there?

8-8 is scary?

[Sloth]

8-8 is scary?

A floor of 7-9 with a good fundamental base, good defense and good running game is scary in a division opponent, yes. Instead of Tampa needing to overachieve, they'd pretty much be in the playoff hunt every season until the end.

[Cat]

Any offense that isn't executing properly is going to be super boring to watch. When players are performing and we have the talent I think it's fun to watch. I thought our 03 offense was a load of fun to watch. lots of explosive plays.

[Cyberjag]

Better than Fox:

Ken whisenhunt - 27-21, inherited a good football team with a HOF QB and is .563

Mike Smith - 20-12. Got an argument here, lets see how he does when the wheels fall off.

Any Reid - 108-67. You get no argument from me on this one either.

Jeff Fischer - 136-110. Fox has had more consistency.

Bill Belichick - 148-92. At the top of everyone's list

Mike Shanahan - 146-98. All those years with Elway certainly didn't help, but I don't think he's better. Frankly, I put him in the same class as Seiffert.

John Harbaugh - 20-12. Inherited a killer defense. You really like second year coaches, don't you? Fox was 18-14 after two years, and led a team to the Super Bowl.

Sean Payton - 38-26. Yeah, probably (as much as I hate to admit it).

Mike McCarthy - 38-26. Gets a great offense, a franchise QB, and some defensive stars to build around. Give me a break.

Jim Caldwell - A first year coach who had Peyton Manning? I could lead them to 14 wins just by staying out of the way.

Tony Sparono - Another second year coach who inherited some talent. I wonder how high he would be on your list if they had signed Brees instead of the Saints.

Tom Coughlin - 123-101. Hasn't won as often as Fox, and frankly you shouldn't include them in the same discussion until one of Fox's teams quits on him. It's happened to Coughlin twice.

Rex Ryan - 9-7. A one year winner with an HBO special.

Mike Tomlin - 31-17. Inherits a Super Bowl team and has gotten worse ever since. Fail.

Mike Singletary - 13-12. Are you going on his rep as a player or something? Maybe you like the dropped pants in the locker room? It has to be something, because it can't be his record....

Norv turner - 90-98. Dude, I thought you were reaching with all the second year coaches, but this takes the cake...

equal to Fox:

Childress - 36-28. I wonder what Fox would have done with a great defense and Adrian Peterson... More?

Phillips - 81-54. Maybe so...

Lewis - 56-55. See Turner, Norv

Everyone else is unproven at this point but have the potential to be better than Fox.

Added some comments in there for you. But I get you now. Haters are gonna hate, and the shoe fits.

BTW, Fox inherited a 1-15 football team, and has gone 71-57 with two NFC Championships and a Super Bowl appearance. He's never done worse than 7-9, and his teams always play hard in December. Not too shabby, IMHO.