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Is it coincidental?


Proudiddy

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The 3-4 is liked by many because it can create more confusion which can hide weaknesses and create matchup problems.

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I would rather hide my weaknesses, than just let someone exploit it all game long.(hey didn't we just see that happen?)

Plus, shouldn't you be trying to get match ups that are in YOUR favor?

I mean, why would you line up in and know your in trouble?

Our defensive philosophy(or ineptitude) is pretty much opposite of what you just posted.

We line up in the same poo no matter what, and never adjust to ANYTHING.

We can't do a 3-4 even if we want to, because our coaches are too stupid, and aren't good enough.

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Actually the trend has been to go away from the 3-4 in the past 6 or 7 years since it hard to find the right personnel ( a 4-3 is what most colleges play so it is much easier to judge actual performance rather than potential which is what you have to do with a 3-4 since most guys haven't played it. Plus new players take time to learn it.

A 4-3 is a fine defense. But a good coordinator uses different looks, sometimes rushes 3 or 4 or 5, changes the scheme etcetera. Until we have a coach that can or will do that, we will never be good. It is no secret, teams and other players have said for years that our scheme is vanilla but due to personnel we were hard to beat. As our talent pool has changed we are still easy to figure out but now we are not so loaded with individual talent that we can't be easily beat as well.

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No defence is better than the other. Both can be very good or very bad.

Just look at the top ten defences this year : Six of them are 4-3 and 4 of them are 3-4. Pretty even to me.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1

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I would rather hide my weaknesses, than just let someone exploit it all game long.(hey didn't we just see that happen?)

Plus, shouldn't you be trying to get match ups that are in YOUR favor?

I mean, why would you line up in and know your in trouble?

Our defensive philosophy(or ineptitude) is pretty much opposite of what you just posted.

We line up in the same sh*t no matter what, and never adjust to ANYTHING.

We can't do a 3-4 even if we want to, because our coaches are too stupid, and aren't good enough.

A 3-4 team looks for matchups in terms of pass rushing. No defense just lines up and doesn't look for mismatches.

The 3-4 is often envied by those whose team doesn't run it. For whatever reason there is a misconception that the 3-4 is always succesful, however the 49ers weren't, they switched to 4-3 and had so much more success. The Jets were bad last year, the Browns aren't good, the Cardinals ran it last year and weren't impressive, they've switched back to 4-3 now.

Both require the right players, and right now we don't have the front four you need to have in order to be dominant against the pass and run. The Titans had NINE defensive lineman with at least one sack, of their 44 total sacks, four of them came from non defensive lineman. Getting 44 sacks when you send four guys that much is a huge advantage, and a reason why they had 20 interceptions.

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That the two top defenses (Steelers and Ravens) in the league run a 3-4 defense? I've never been big on the 3-4, I've always liked the 4-3 a little better myself (maybe b/c I understood it better)... But, the more I think about it, it may be time for change. The Steelers, Ravens, and Patriots always have great defenses and they have ran the 3-4 for as long as I can remember.

Que Bill Cowher threads on 3.....2.....1...

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Well, I remember Capers ran a 3-4 when he was here IIRC (I was only 10-12 years old). I don't think it would be that hard to convert if we wanted, it would just take the right COORDINATOR, who presently isn't on the staff.

Brayton, Kemo, and Lewis could play the 3 down lineman. Davis, Beason, Diggs/Connor, Peppers could play the linebackers. I don't think it would be that hard. I think that Pep actually longs to play in a 3-4 like Joey Porter or Demarcus Ware.

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Well, I remember Capers ran a 3-4 when he was here IIRC (I was only 10-12 years old). I don't think it would be that hard to convert if we wanted, it would just take the right COORDINATOR, who presently isn't on the staff.

Brayton, Kemo, and Lewis could play the 3 down lineman. Davis, Beason, Diggs/Connor, Peppers could play the linebackers. I don't think it would be that hard. I think that Pep actually longs to play in a 3-4 like Joey Porter or Demarcus Ware.

It would be like learning German when you speak English. Yea you can do it but its gonna take a while. The Jets did ok there first season but they didnt do so swell the next one. Dallas had problem for a while and SF and CLE are horrible running it.

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Apparently the defense Panthers have runned last few seasons is taking a while ,ands still a work in progress .

And Apparently Panthers don't have the players to run that defense.

So why not try 3-4 with differnt D coaches ?

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JMO.....I think the shortage is in the coaching of a 3-4. At least that's what I've heard. I have to agree to some degree with Skull....run what ever ya want, just run it a whole lot better than you have been. With the offense we have I just think an attacking defense would serve us better.

disclamier....for any of these thoughts or wishes to come true John Fox has too go.

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Well, I remember Capers ran a 3-4 when he was here IIRC (I was only 10-12 years old). I don't think it would be that hard to convert if we wanted, it would just take the right COORDINATOR, who presently isn't on the staff.

Brayton, Kemo, and Lewis could play the 3 down lineman. Davis, Beason, Diggs/Connor, Peppers could play the linebackers. I don't think it would be that hard. I think that Pep actually longs to play in a 3-4 like Joey Porter or Demarcus Ware.

Okay, go look at the weight and size of all the Steeler's linebackers and the Raven's line backers.

Also, look at the height of all the 3-4 OLBs.

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Lamaar Woodley 6'2 265 Julius Peppers 6'7 283

James Farrior 6'2 243 John Beason 6'0 239

Larry Foote 6'1 239 Adam Seward 6'3 250* Need help here

James Harrison 6'0 242 Thomas Davis 6'2 240

Aaron Smith 6'5 298 Tyler Brayton 6'6 280

Casey Hampton 6'1 325 Kemo 6'5 350

Brett Keisel 6'5 285 Damione Lewis 6'2 300 *Need help here as well

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