WRs not named Smitty - through preseason game 2

[Wither]

lol @ House's hatred for Jarrett...

Did you see Moose hanging out with Jarrett at the beginning of the game, with Moose's son there?

Yup. They looked like good friends, really (I imagine they aren't that close but it just goes to show you that Jarrett is more of this team than he gets credit for).

[House]

lol @ House's hatred for Jarrett...

Did you see Moose hanging out with Jarrett at the beginning of the game, with Moose's son there?

So our old #2 is hanging out with Jarrett before a game and that makes him the new #2?

I have no hatred for Jarrett. I would love to see him become a star, I just don't think that it is possible.

If you watch the game objectively you will see that Jarrett is just not getting it done. He fools you because he has great hands, but he can't get open consistently and he runs bad routes.

[Snake]

No one is separating themselves, but Jarrett and Moore are reinforcing their statuses, which does count for something.

Yea but there status was not all that good to start with. I mean it really bothers me when we are talking about two WRs that have trouble getting open on the second and third string CBs and then we say yea there good enough to be on the 1st string. They both have had good caches but a lot of them were contested cause of no separation. Thats also the reason why our QB has to check down so much.

I concur.

Which is why I think Fox should strongly consider bringing in someone cut if the right opportunity presents itself (which I don't think will happen since Fox seems so stubborn in certain aspects of his team). I would be willing to bet there will be some cut WRs that could probably be slightly better options than what we are working with. (granted, all rookies would remain on the roster). Not sure losing Moore or Jarrett wouldn't be worth that move though.

Im not sure if we will see Value but if we do it would be worth wild. We need a WR that can just get some sort of separation. Its bad when we would have been better off keeping Drew Carter over this bunch.

Jarrett will be the #2.

At this point he is the best blocker and WR. So yes.

lol @ House's hatred for Jarrett...

Did you see Moose hanging out with Jarrett at the beginning of the game, with Moose's son there?

He could hang out with moose all year thats still not going to make him play like Moose.

[Wither]

Yea but there status was not all that good to start with.

I was actually trying to imply that it was a bad thing.

[Nu Guns]

A review by CRA AKA Mr. Negative through 2 preseason games.

K. Moore - targeted 9 times, 2 rec, 51 yards

D. Jarrett - targeted 7 times 4 rec, 24 yards

B. LaFell - targeted 5 times, 1 rec, 15 yards

A. Edwards - targeted 11 times, 4 rec, 33 yards.

*granted there are other plays like pass interference calls, plays called back, blocking, etc that don't show on a stat sheet that factor in.

K. Moore - currently (only 2 meaningless preseason games) Moore has shown to be the overall best WR. He runs the best routes out of the group and looks to have the most big play potential. His hands? While he does make some tough highlight quality grabs...... his hands are far from consistant and lacks the blocking ability we seem to rely on from our starting WRs of seasons prior.

D. Jarrett - Jarrett is a big body who pulls in catches. Nothing spectacular. He does appear to have the most consistant hands out of this group by a fairly significant margin. However, if he isn't getting open often and forcing balls into coverage probably isn't the option we would like to see Moore take in this offense.....you gotta wonder if he simply just won't workout no matter how much he studies and workst. Jarrett being on the field in 2 WR sets could cause Moore to force balls to both the WRs. Jarrett b/c he never gets legitimate seperation and then to Smith b/c he is a miracle man and our QB could often hope to see if he can perform one.

B. LaFell - probably has the potential to be the best WR out of this group in the long haul imo. He simply needs some NFL reps to work on his game in terms of postioning himself for some of the tougher grabs he would be required to make in this offense. I think the transistion to being an NFL WR is probably a lot easier for guys not coming into a playaction running offense.

AE - very diverse and talented. He is a rookie. Much like LaFell (well, actually to a much greater extent) he just needs reps. Practice, preseason, and tons of practice as this season goes on. He needs reps before he is able to contribute on this team. Maybe by midseason he could be ready but I think it is a bit much to assume a converted QB can pick up new positions as quickly as people assume should happen. Realistically, it isn't fair to even think of him as an option heading into week 1 and likely not even this season as a WR.

Now, while I give Kenny Moore the slight edge at this point overall as a WR, I am not sure the power run game of Carolina will want to put Moore out there to do a fair amount of blocking. Jarrett and LaFell clearly outperform him in that aspect.

Things could change drastically after the third preseason game where there is actually some prep work done by Fox. In addition to that, I would wager Moore and the offensive line could look signficantly better as they prepare for the defensive scheme Tenn will run (which also happens to be a 4-3 look that players here are more use to seeing every day in practice). The wildcard of Steve Smith remains at play and I would guess if Smitty was going to see any action he might make an appearance in the one game coaches in the preseason hold to a slightly higher standard. Smitty on the field would probably give a more realistic look at what the number 2WR might be facing. Teams will not be able to be as risky imo with some of the early blitz work with 89 on the field. So week 3 imo will be the chance for one of these guys to really show if they are ready to contribute heading into week 1.

Now, if things relatively stay the same next weekend and no player makes any signifcant movement. I think Carolina SHOULD look to bring in a veteran (even if only a few years are under his belt) that is cut to at least provide some stable play. A youth movement is great, but while LaFell and AE practice and get better we simply need someone to be relaible in that department. Assuming we run a similar offensive scheme as the past 2 seasons I am not sure the #2 spot fits either Moore or Jarrett. At this point, no one imo really looks good enough to be considered a starting WR for this offense. I do think that could change this season as LaFell could be ready by midseason or even before.

So as of now, I think it is basically too early to get to high or low on these guys. I think however after next week (game 3 against Tenn) it will then be fair to start making some more concrete opinions on this guys. And let's face it, we are fans, we are far smarter than coaches. All they have to do is ask us what to do and the team would be 16-0

Anywho, that is my 2 cents. Feel free to rip it apart.

Good write up.

Long story short- our passing game this year will suck again

[Wither]

Good write up.

Long story short- our passing game this year will suck again

"Effective use of forum space award goes to..."

And before you retort about my images, I have made plenty of useful posts to make up for those today.

[Argus Plexus]

I don't think half the guys on here realize just how hard it really is to play WR.

[KillerKat]

5th round pick from 1 year ago was just released from the Rams. Played ball at UNC. Wouldnt be surprised if we looked at him although I doubt itll be worth it.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5380

[Snake]

I was actually trying to imply that it was a bad thing.

Oh... Well.. Then :cheers2:

[Wither]

I don't think half the guys on here realize just how hard it really is to play WR.

I don't think half the guys on here realize this is professional football and just how hard it is to get into the league.

Oh... Well.. Then :cheers2:

:cheers2:

[Snake]

I don't think half the guys on here realize just how hard it really is to play WR.

I dont think most people on here know how hard it is to be a School teacher. Still there are plenty of them out there doing there job. Thats all we are asking of these guys.

[Argus Plexus]

I dont think most people on here know how hard it is to be a School teacher. Still there are plenty of them out there doing there job. Thats all we are asking of these guys.

I don't know you but if you have ever played ball you will know how much work goes into putting a team together, and how much work goes into just being average on a team. Being a star is very rare. It's usually hit-and-miss.

[Razeyfingers]

thanks for the write up CRA, good reading.

I must say that Jarrett just looks tentative in everything he does on the field. He's still young so he may still become a player but it's going to require two things, imo, for him to be successful here.

1) He needs to learn how to learn or maybe how to work smarter not harder. How can he still be lining up wrong at this point? I'm serious. . how is it possible that he has been in this offense for 3 years and still doesnt know where to go? I dont recall anything like that in ever watching football. It's truly bizarre to the point where I am now thinking that he just might have some sort of learning disability that we dont know about.

2) he has to work his legs with the strength and conditioning coach. c'mon maaan, 3 years with the some of the best trainers in the world and he still cant get off the line or accelerate out of his routes.

Kid has the skills to be what I thought would be another Plaxico Burress. Damn man, we might even look like Pitt's old crew when they had him. Smitty with a Plaxico and a Randle El? Its possible but I just dont see DJ making it any further than this. I think he will eventually learn how to study right and be successful if even only slightly or marginal, (I dont think it will be in Carolina) but it doesnt seem to me that he will ever have the physical speed to be a #2 in this offense.

I dont have any faith in any of our other receivers for the various reasons that people have commentated on already in this thread, although I think Lafell has the best odds of being what we need in a #2. He has just got to improve his game. Anything that hits his hands should be a catch. This is the pros, 1 and 2's pluck catches out of the air at least most of the time. And btw. . did he go for that ball that was intercepted? I cant remember whether he even put himself in a position to fight for it.

If the team is "reshaping" right now as we all can at least concede, I think Fox may be more likely to pull the trigger on either a trade for draft picks or picking someone up off waivers.

Oh and btw, for anyone that said "TO would been great maayyn!!11!!!`~!!" . . Smitty absolutely despises him, its really not possible at all for him to exist on this team. funny chit though

[OneBadassCat]

How do you know Smith despises him?