Question for long time Panther Fans.

[jasonluckydog]

Clausen got snubbed last year.

That pissed me off.

[rayzor]

chuckle away. it is a big popularity contest. it is the best players on teams that are picked but it's the best players on the teams with 1) the largest fanbases or 2) the teams that are the most hyped. the way the voting is set up (you can vote as many times as you want and the fan vote carries a lot of weight. as long as that is the case, it will be a popularity contest.

players on teams that are large market teams have a huge advantage over players on teams that don't.

I always chuckle when people say the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest.

This is true, but who are the most popular players? Usually they're the best on the team. Who here's favorite player on the Panthers is James Anderson? Anybody for Hilee Taylor?

Don't worry... I'll wait.

Turns out, most people would have guys like Gross, Beason, Stewart, Williams, Smitty and Otah somewhere near the top of their respective lists. It also turns out that most of those guys are either pro-bowlers or will be pro-bowlers (Stewart/Otah).

Of course every year you can point to a couple people who got "snubbed" out of a spot on the Pro Bowl roster. That, however, is a result of the limited spots available. You could make a case for every guy that plays in the Pro Bowl. Unfortunately, there aren't enough spots on the roster for every player who maybe could be on it, to be on it.

Also, the Pro Bowl seems to be a big deal among players, otherwise Beason wouldn't be using his non-selection last year as such a big motivation.

[neverlosethefeeling]

We were 8-8 last year and got 4 guys in.

Nobody here will argue that we weren't over-hyped and Ryan Kalil probably doesn't have the largest fanbase in the world. He got in.

the way the voting is set up (you can vote as many times as you want and the fan vote carries a lot of weight. as long as that is the case, it will be a popularity contest.

Also, fan vote is 1/3 of the vote. The rest comes from players and coaches.

Last year the Redskins has 12 starters voted in by the fan vote... yet only 2 made the Pro Bowl..

Come on, son.

[Wither]

you can vote as many times as you want and the fan vote carries a lot of weight.

How do you know that they don't filter repeat votes?