Same returning line for the first time in almost 10 years….

[WarPanthers89]

I thought this was an interesting fact of the day. Here to hoping we continue to keep this a strength and continue to draft O line guys some time after round one. We have such a long list of impact linemen that we drafted after the 1st, and we need to continue to draft for the future. Think of the impact some of the players on this list had on our team. We need to think of the future at RT, C, and even a development player or two at the G spots 

Edited Saturday at 12:44 PM by WarPanthers89

[jfra78]

26 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I thought this was an interesting fact of the day. Here to hoping we continue to keep this a strength and continue to draft O line guys some time after round one. We have such a long list of impact linemen that we drafted after the 1st, and we need to continue to draft for the future. Think of the impact some of the players on this list had on our team. We need to think of the future at RT, C, and even a development player or two at the G spots 

And before that it was 08-09

[coffee]

That's a much better returning line than "Trust the Process."

[Admiral Ackbar]

just reading Mike Remmers name makes me want to barf lol

[LinvilleGorge]

Well, to be fair, outside of a handful of seasons we've generally sucked at the OL anyway so when you suck it's pretty dumb to return your starting lineup. We just finally had a decent OL so there's no pressing need for change.

[musicman]

One more WR and a TE and with our O-line and Bryce improving, we could have a solid year (maybe 8-9 wins) and battle for a playoff spot. A good O-line makes any QB/offense look good. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

just reading Mike Remmers name makes me want to barf lol

He's really unfairly maligned because of that game. He was a serviceable RT who just could not handle elite speed rushers one on one. The Falcons did us a massive favor denying us a perfect regular season in exposing that reality. Unfortunately, Rivera and Shula must have just through that Vic Beasley absolutely eating Remmers' lunch was a fluke and that he'd surely be able to handle Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware. That game was probably 70% about Wade Phillips taking Rivera and Shula to school and the majority of the remaining 30% was the refs absolutely refusing to throw any flags on the numerous blatant targeting hits by the Broncos.

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's really unfairly maligned because of that game. He was a serviceable RT who just could not handle elite speed rushers one on one. The Falcons did us a massive favor denying us a perfect regular season in exposing that reality. Unfortunately, Rivera and Shula must have just through that Vic Beasley absolutely eating Remmers' lunch was a fluke and that he'd surely be able to handle Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware. That game was probably 70% about Wade Phillips taking Rivera and Shula to school and the majority of the remaining 30% was the refs absolutely refusing to throw any flags on the numerous blatant targeting hits by the Broncos.

 

It been reported they sent help for remmers numerous times and for whatever reasons- SB pressure, Cam changed play, players believed in rem, etc etc. The help was never sent. DG said it a few times. But also no one can explain why. Panthers were cocky and Favorited, they didn't change anything and didn't plan for RB or TE help against pressure. It wasn't need that whole season- Cam was playing out of this world and nothing could stop him....... but the #2 pick....

Miller was elite and he gave others the rem job too.  

[t96]

9 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

just reading Mike Remmers name makes me want to barf lol

He gets a bad rap because of the SB which was 100% on Ron/Shula not adjusting and getting him help. Dude was great for a waiver wire pickup veteran UDFA.

Edited yesterday at 02:33 AM by t96

[LinvilleGorge]

6 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

It been reported they sent help for remmers numerous times and for whatever reasons- SB pressure, Cam changed play, players believed in rem, etc etc. The help was never sent. DG said it a few times. But also no one can explain why. Panthers were cocky and Favorited, they didn't change anything and didn't plan for RB or TE help against pressure. It wasn't need that whole season- Cam was playing out of this world and nothing could stop him....... but the #2 pick....

Miller was elite and he gave others the rem job too.  

Not exactly. Shula simply didn't change how he helped the OL. He very consistently adjusted for struggling protection by keeping in additional blockers and continued to run the same slow developing downfield routes. Wade Phillips countered this with blue dog blitzing where if the guy you're assigned to cover stays in to block, you blitz to negate the extra blocker so that you still create one on one opportunities for your pass rushers. Shula was seemingly oblivious to the reality that he could also counter pressure by dialing up quicker developing routes.

[PantherChris]

13 hours ago, t96 said:

He gets a bad rap because of the SB which was 100% on Ron/Shula not adjusting and getting him help. Dude was great for a waiver wire pickup veteran UDFA.

Idk he got Patrick mahomes beat to hell in a SB too 

[CPcavedweller]

22 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

just reading Mike Remmers name makes me want to barf lol

Remmers was good, except for one game. And that one game was against a defensive line with two Hall of Famer pass rushers. 

[CPcavedweller]

21 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Idk he got Patrick mahomes beat to hell in a SB too 

So he got to two Super Bowls? He’s horribleeeee. 

[Waldo]

Rumblings Moton could be done and I in no way belive Corbertt is a positive at this point while Mays is a big maybe/maybe not.

3 out of 5 is good but they need to keep building towards the future.