Sick and tired of all you haters on this board

[Jangler]

Im guessing subtlety has never been your strong point. Haha.

If it was a poster I didn't "know" I wouldn't have said that.

[Udogg]

So basically if Jake Delhomme walked up to you at training camp and stabbed you in the chest would you thank him for not shooting you?

Just because you look at the bright side doesn't mean you are a better fan. Just means you should buy some candycorn and STFU....

heh..I'm using that all day tommorow

[kingbrad12]

So basically if Jake Delhomme walked up to you at training camp and stabbed you in the chest would you thank him for not shooting you?

Just because you look at the bright side doesn't mean you are a better fan. Just means you should buy some candycorn and STFU....

heh..I'm using that all day tommorow

Ding Ding Ding...panthers fans are the worlds best at settling for mediocracy...of course I am pissed off, of course I don't think Jake or Fox is the awnser to us becoming superbowl champs...Jake Delhomme is an average QB and that is not going to win us a Ring. We have too much explosive offensive talent to just have an ok QB...and lets think about this logically when is the last time you saw Jake throw a good thorw? Not a 5 yard pass to smith who then turns it into a 60 yard play either. When is the last time you saw Jake look off a defender or see that Smith is double covered and then check it down to Muss or King? And John Fox lets see here yea he is a good coach...we barely beat bad teams, we are publicly known for playing to our competition level...3rd down and more than 5 to go we will always throw a 3 yard pass and no first down...when we get up by 7 pts we go into a prevent defense and stop rushing the QB...when we get down by 7 pts we abandon the run and double the passes...come on we need a change in Carolina and I for one cannot wait to see the difference an offensive minded coach will make with such and explosive offensie like we have.

[SCP]

....I'm also sick and tired of people that actually think candy corn is good.

Candy corn is the Trgovac of the candy universe, and people that eat candy corn don't know poo about football.

[Cyberjag]

We don't settle for mediocracy, nor have we been mediocre under Fox. You think a 12-4 record is mediocre? Go tell that to a Lion's fan. Would you like to whine about your playoff appearances to a Texan? We're not one of the top five teams in the league, but we're close to that.

Champions take a long time to build, and you either need to get the pieces right all along the way or strike gold in the draft. We made some mistakes early on under Fox in the draft, but how can any of you say we're headed in the wrong direction and expect to be taken seriously?

Jake fucked up BAD on Saturday, but he's won enough games for us this year to show he still has a lot left. Our offense looks very set to be very good for the next few years. Davidson obviously needs to learn from this past game, but once he starts calling to Jake's strengths and has the patience to rely on the running game even in pressure situations, we'll be pretty damn scary.

Defense is terrible right now, but defense is also what Fox and Hurney are very good at assembling. Now that they've got the offense set, watch what happens when they focus on that side of the ball again.

Lost in all of this is that we finally seem to have learned how to deal with injuries. The offensive line shifted all over the place like it did in 06, but we didn't suffer for it. We did pretty well at the end of the year despite losing our defensive tackles. That's a thin position and we dealt with it--a far cry from previous seasons.

12-4 is a great year. I would love to go 9-7 or better next year, and looking at the roster there's no reason to think we won't. Saturday's loss stings, but there's plenty of positives in this picture, and nothing about it looks mediocre to me.

[CLTPanther]

I haven't abandoned the Panthers, but that loss was disgusting to watch. I absolutely hate to lose, but it was the way that we lost this game that was especially disgusting. We looked like we didn't even belong in the damn playoffs. Oklahoma probably could have beaten us Saturday. And to be honest, I'm now sick and tired of Jake. I have been defending him for years, but no more. Sure, he has fire and leadership, but he also decides to throw 4-5 ints in a SINGLE game several times a year. And don't give me "he brought us back in the 4th Q x nubmer of times" arguement. 95% of those were Smitty bailing him out with a ridiculous catch that was 50% skill and 50% luck.

[Cyberjag]

Smitty didn't do too much bailing out of Weinke, Testaverde, Moore, or Carr. It takes two, you know.

Jakes ok right now. Had we stuck with the run do you think he would have still found a way to turn it over so many times? It's a team game, and he's good enough at what he does. No one's saying he's great, ok? But he's better than any other option right now. So suck it up and move on, you'll feel better.

[SCP]

Cyberjag is wise.

The rest of you guys that want to blow up a 12-4 team because of one shitty game need to back away from the ledge and take a deep breath.

Address the defense by hiring a new DC, and we will be fine.

See you in Spartanurg.

[Carolina Husker]

Address the defense by hiring a new DC, and we will be fine.

Problem is, I really doubt that will happen because we had a 12-4 season. Trgovac gets a pass, and we get a second rate defense again, maybe minus Julius Peppers.

So as far as I'm concerned, there are some major issues that will not be addressed in the offseason. Some of them are by choice (see: Trgovac), but others are because we don't have the draft picks and/or cap space to sign the players we need to improve in necessary areas.

[engine9]

woohoo! we don't need to be the best, we just need to be better than most! :party:

[Mesmer]

Smitty didn't do too much bailing out of Weinke, Testaverde, Moore, or Carr. It takes two, you know.

Jakes ok right now. Had we stuck with the run do you think he would have still found a way to turn it over so many times? It's a team game, and he's good enough at what he does. No one's saying he's great, ok? But he's better than any other option right now. So suck it up and move on, you'll feel better.

Quoted for 110% Truth.

I, for one, have realized that a magical QB isn't going to fall out of the sky and lead the Panthers. There just simply aren't that many of them for every team to have one.

Of course, that may have to do with the fact that I'm not 12 years old anymore. Whats the rest of you guys' excuses?

[King Taharqa]

Ding Ding Ding...panthers fans are the worlds best at settling for mediocracy.

The ugly truth.

[AKPantherFan]

anyone ever think that it "just wasent meant to be". I honestly think destiny plays a roll in all of this, so maybe it just wasent our time.

matter of fact, it couldnt have been.

end of story.

[Carolina Husker]

Destiny has nothing to do with the inability to not cover the most dangerous player on the other team, abandon the run game in the 1st quarter and throw 5 inexcusable interceptions.