Panthers Top 15 Paid Players at Position

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, BullCityP said:

As a alternate not voted as a top guy 

so thats your litmus test, if he made the pro bowl?  Goddamn

 

Hes a top 10ish corner that leveraged the hell out of his situation and took morgan to the bank.  Props to him

Edited 4 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[BullCityP]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so thats your litmus test, if he made the pro bowl?  Goddamn

 

Hes a top 10ish corner that leveraged the hell out of his situation and took morgan to the bank.  Props to him

That plus my eye test and my eyes tell me he's EASILY top 10!! I'll leave all those metrics to you guys I'm not too hip to all that 

[BullCityP]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

weird take

How is it weird?  Like how do does pff even come up with their grading? I don't know how it works, what factors do they take into account? I know what a good football player looks like maybe if they had me on the staff instead of these analytic guys we would be better off as a team lol

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, BullCityP said:

How is it weird?  Like how do does pff even come up with their grading? I don't know how it works, what factors do they take into account? I know what a good football player looks like maybe if they had me on the staff instead of these analytic guys we would be better off as a team lol

I mean you could google, its not some proprietary secret

 

https://www.pff.com/grades

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[PNW_PantherMan]

It's just Brian Burns all over again.  Different outcome.  Same situation.

[BullCityP]

10 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

so thats your litmus test, if he made the pro bowl?  Goddamn

 

Hes a top 10ish corner that leveraged the hell out of his situation and took morgan to the bank.  Props to him

And the Probowl is voted on by fans COACHES and PLAYERS. So with us being a small market team I doubt he had alot of fan votes so I trust the coaches and players opinion waaayyyyyy more than PFF!! lolol 

[Loyalty4Life]

Not a top 10 QB?  You can't see me face palming but I am.

Here are some metrics.

Low target rate.  In fact, it's elite.  QB's don't like to test him.
Elite Passer rating when he is targeted.
Elite completion % allowed.
Elite in yards allowed after catch.
Elite at forced incompletions.
Great against the run.

In 2022 he was #1 in more than a few of these areas and top 3 in a bunch more.

He rated at the very tippy top as an athlete.  9.99 on the relative athletic score.


 

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, BullCityP said:

And the Probowl is voted on by fans COACHES and PLAYERS. So with us being a small market team I doubt he had alot of fan votes so I trust the coaches and players opinion waaayyyyyy more than PFF!! lolol 

excuse me while I roll my eyes. 

 

Also do you really think players are watching the panthers?  And more to the point there are 8 cornerbacks selected so that is falling in line with what we are saying, he is a top 10ish corner

 

When can fans vote for the 2025 Pro Bowl Games?

Fans can vote as often as they want. Voting is from Nov. 25 to Dec. 23.

[Basbear]

There is a shocking amount of common sense being displayed in the huddle

Honestly and smart view point- the only contract worth is Dbrowns'

 

Horn, look no matter the outcome, it's wrong for the Panthers. You cannot let him walk and you cannot make him the HIGHEST(WTFFFFFF!!) paid CB/DB..... Well Bas- "trade him".... for what???, he's missed half his games and NEVER finished a season.....You know the playoffs are for winners, horn would have missed the last FOUR years by some random chance Panthers were in them. I doubt much more than late 3rd and 5th, would be the offer. You pay and pray.....

 

It's against my religion to pay OGs, RBs, and safety. I disagree with all, bump the CMC threads and I hated it then too. 

 

The only path to justifying all these overpays- making the playoffs. If they don't you can point to this. Once you have poor draft years, no one gets paid, then you lose, and then you get "taxed" overpaying free agents.  

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[Basbear]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Show me any available metric or measure where he has been top 10?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Basbear]

24 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It's just Brian Burns all over again.  Different outcome.  Same situation.

 

So will Icky....... sucks being Panthers fans with no clear stars, each have *_________. 

 

Same deal, LT are near impossible to find and panther may have a young one that they invested years into already. Just like horn, you cannot let him walk and you cannot make him the highest paid LT...... Trade market, late 1st at best cause the team has to pay him 30million per. Panthers suck at drafting and all late 1st yield 2nd round-type players. So........pay him and let us cry and laugh....

 

 

 

Then wait until BY needs a contract.......same deal AGAIN....

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[frankw]

This franchise hasn't had a winning season since 2017 and we're using the Pro Bowl as a measuring stick now?

We really need to get some visiting fans here more often again. Liven this place up.

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

This franchise hasn't had a winning season since 2017 and we're using the Pro Bowl as a measuring stick now?

We really need to get some visiting fans here more often again. Liven this place up.

you are just a stat nerd, Horn passes his eye test

[BullCityP]

30 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

excuse me while I roll my eyes. 

 

Also do you really think players are watching the panthers?  And more to the point there are 8 cornerbacks selected so that is falling in line with what we are saying, he is a top 10ish corner

 

When can fans vote for the 2025 Pro Bowl Games?

Fans can vote as often as they want. Voting is from Nov. 25 to Dec. 23.

Uuuuuhhh maybe the other 14 teams that have to play and scout us have to watch the Panthers lol