Yea , we should do like dallas

[Nemesis]

Change the coaches and change the players every 2-3 years. Have an owner who tells the fans the teams the greatest thing on earth. Hows that working out for Dallas. All I know FORE SURE is after I set thur the 1-15 2001 season, John Fox And Jake have taken us to three playoff seasons and two NFC championships and one superbowl..So in 2008 we go 12-4 and have one very bad loss in the playoffs and most the folks on this board want to be like Dallas and just start over.

How many of you complainers bought a David Carr jersey ?

[unicar15]

Ummm...our defense sucks with a ton of talent. Fix the defense and you won't hear a peep out of me. Jake is 100% the QB for next year there is no doubt in my mind and I'm not mad about it but the defense has got to be fixed. Someone on this board said that if we got long term deals done with Peppers and Gross then the complainers would be happy...I also believe that to be true.

[Urrymonster]

To be honest most people are not complaining and are being pretty rational. They are questioning the same things every pundit, critic and announcer is wondering, if everyone is wondering it then there must be cause for it.

Fox has done great for us and he will be here next season, but somewhere along the line his philosophy has changed somewhat, especially defensive. This team is not like the ones in prior years. This team was a TD scoring machine and had huge problems defensively, just the offense bailed them out so many times.

Plus Fox has been with us for 6 years and Trgovac 7, with 5 as DC. I agree continuity is the key to success, but only if there are not fundamental flaws with what is happening in the philosophy.

[Fright]

Them being active also made the most of their talent. We have the talent, but will waste it away b/c of loyalty to bad coaches. Sometimes I wish we were proactive like other organizations.

[pstall]

Status quo won't work. You ALWAYS evaluate at the end of the year and see where you make changes.

Thats why there is a draft and Free Agency and you can trade.

SOMETHING does need to change. If you don't think so can I have your PIN# to your checking acct?

[rayzor]

Last year we got rid of dead weight players....most of them anyway. addition by subtraction.

this year we get rid of dead weight coaches. turbocrap and lewis needs to be gone!

[tight lines]

Fox has done great for us and he will be here next season, but somewhere along the line his philosophy has changed somewhat, especially defensive. This team is not like the ones in prior years. This team was a TD scoring machine and had huge problems defensively, just the offense bailed them out so many times.

Plus Fox has been with us for 6 years and Trgovac 7, with 5 as DC. I agree continuity is the key to success, but only if there are not fundamental flaws with what is happening in the philosophy.

I don't think the defensive philosophy has had any major change, I just think the weakness at DT really reared its ugly head.

Im not a fan of Trgo at all, and havent been for several years. I do think the defense would be much better though with a couple upgrades at DT.

[MyDrunkardNC]

I certainly think Fox should return. I can live with Jake starting next year. But if this team doesn't take some important steps to improve our defense, I will have lost a lot of faith in our team's chances to do deep in the playoffs. The problems with the defense are correctable, though, so that's a positive.

[Bama Panther]

I don't think the defensive philosophy has had any major change, I just think the weakness at DT really reared its ugly head.

Im not a fan of Trgo at all, and havent been for several years. I do think the defense would be much better though with a couple upgrades at DT.

The defensive philosophy has changed. The Panthers were a major bump and run team with physical DBs in the Super Bowl season. It is pretty hard to play that style when your CBs line up 7-10 yards off the ball.

[frash.exe]

where the fug did this poo come from? Where did anybody suggest emulating the Cowboys organization in the last two days?

You fanboys need to get a fuging grip with reality and understand that a lot of people are pissed the fug off about saturday.

[frash.exe]

where the fug did this poo come from? Where did anybody suggest emulating the Cowboys organization in the last two days?

You fanboys need to get a fuging grip with reality and understand that a lot of people are pissed the fug off about saturday.

[tight lines]

The defensive philosophy has changed. The Panthers were a major bump and run team with physical DBs in the Super Bowl season. It is pretty hard to play that style when your CBs line up 7-10 yards off the ball.

The major bump and run stuff ended in 2004 because of changes in the rules byt the NFL.

[Bama Panther]

The major bump and run stuff ended in 2004 because of changes in the rules byt the NFL.

I am well aware of the changes. However, a DB can still jam a WR within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Again, it is hard to do that when you line up 7-10 yards off the ball.

[tight lines]

I am well aware of the changes. However, a DB can still jam a WR within five yards of the line of scrimmage. Again, it is hard to do that when you line up 7-10 yards off the ball.

oddly enough if you payed attention to the last game they played up on the wr's quite a bit, much more than they have the rest of the season. It really doesnt matter when you can't get enough pressure on the QB.

Our secondary this year was better than the 03 secondary. The big difference was on the DL.