Tee Higgins Smoke...

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, L-TownCat said:

According to a USAtoday article, the Bengals are notorious for crazy high asking prices and are determined to win lopsided trade deals, rarely lowering the price.

Walk away and when they call back offer even less.  fug ‘em.

[tgrfan01]

pass. hes a great talent but hes in the medical room more than the practice field. not worth it

[tukafan21]

7 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

Probably the same deal as DK 

And DK is a better WR

[tukafan21]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nope. But man, we can't afford to give away draft assets and cap space at the same time.

One of T-Mac or Warren will be there at #8 practically guaranteed if we're hell-bent on trying to get an elite receiving target for Bryce.

 

 

Exactly, if you're giving up both picks and cap room at the same time, it needs to be for a certifiable elite player.

Higgins doesn't fit that bill, not by a long shot when you factor in his health problems.

Hendrickson on the other hand, while I'm not a fan of giving up both picks/cap at the same time, at least he would make a ridiculous impact on our defense next year.  He was a 1st team all pro this past year, had 17.5 sacks each of the last 2 seasons and has 13.5 or more in 4 of his last 5 seasons.

If we can get him without giving up our 1st and with a reasonable contract (as in, not re-set the market but maybe just a Top 10 pass rusher contract), then draft T-Mac at 8, it would improve our team SOOOOOOOO much more than trading for Higgins, giving him Top 5 WR money, and then using 8 on an edge rusher who will take a few years to make a serious impact.

[jfra78]

Cincinnati is crazy, just move on and pick a yac guy in the 3rd

[Chad_Cota]

Sign Amari Cooper and call it a day. 

[The Lobo]

A lot of the talk on x has died off so far today. 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

And DK is a better WR

That's debatable.  Especially if you look at last year. 

[tukafan21]

23 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

That's debatable.  Especially if you look at last year. 

Is it though?

Even looking at just this past year, DK played 3 more games and had 81 more yards than Higgins had, but he also did it on less catches, with DK averaging 15 yards per catch and Higgins with 12.5.

Yes, Higgins had 10 TDs to DK's 5, but I'd say that was far less about the WRs than the QBs, seeing as Burrow had 43 TDs (and only 9 INTs) to Geno's 21 TDs (and 15 INTs).  Swap the two of them last year and DK puts up better stats with Burrow as his QB than Higgins did, no doubt about it in my mind.

DK has also only missed 3 games in his career, Higgins has missed 5 in each of the last 2 seasons.

People here complain about our WR speed (and it's many people's biggest issue with T-Mac in the draft), but Higgins ran a 4.59 40 and DK ran a 4.33.

DK has only played one more season than Higgins but he has 1,730 yards and 14 TDs more than Higgins, despite playing with the ghost of Russell Wilson and Geno Smith, while Higgins has had Burrow.

To me, there is no debate, DK is a significantly better WR than Higgins.  Give him Burrow as his QB during his career and his numbers would dwarf what Higgins has put up.

Edited 1 hour ago by tukafan21

[ForJimmy]

44 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Is it though?

Even looking at just this past year, DK played 3 more games and had 81 more yards than Higgins had, but he also did it on less catches, with DK averaging 15 yards per catch and Higgins with 12.5.

Yes, Higgins had 10 TDs to DK's 5, but I'd say that was far less about the WRs than the QBs, seeing as Burrow had 43 TDs (and only 9 INTs) to Geno's 21 TDs (and 15 INTs).  Swap the two of them last year and DK puts up better stats with Burrow as his QB than Higgins did, no doubt about it in my mind.

DK has also only missed 3 games in his career, Higgins has missed 5 in each of the last 2 seasons.

People here complain about our WR speed (and it's many people's biggest issue with T-Mac in the draft), but Higgins ran a 4.59 40 and DK ran a 4.33.

DK has only played one more season than Higgins but he has 1,730 yards and 14 TDs more than Higgins, despite playing with the ghost of Russell Wilson and Geno Smith, while Higgins has had Burrow.

To me, there is no debate, DK is a significantly better WR than Higgins.  Give him Burrow as his QB during his career and his numbers would dwarf what Higgins has put up.

Are you debating if it’s debatable?

[Jaxel]

12 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Are you debating if it’s debatable?

I'm debating if your debating that he's debating about something debatable.

[Bear Hands]

Only elite WRs are making 25 mil plus, 1Bs and really impactful contributors can be found throughout the draft

Their value for what it takes compared to what Tee will want is night and day. He’s trying to get max value right now, and honestly, it’s not worth it for a guy that gets banged up every year and has lingering issues all the time. 

[tukafan21]

17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Are you debating if it’s debatable?

No, I'm pointing out the myriad of reasons that I don't think it's even debatable.

Higgins is 1 year younger, that's the only thing I'm giving him an advantage over DK in, if that's all he has on his side of the ledger, then I don't see where there is a debate.

Edited 11 minutes ago by tukafan21