Per Yasinskas: Quarterback Competition?

[trucpfan]

I know, I understand.. America's biggest downfall will be the me! me! me! now! now! now! mentality that runs rampant...

however, that's not the best approach in the NFL (or in life in general, lol)

there is absolutely NO reason to throw a rookie QB into the lion's den... the risk is far more dangerous than any reward...

when you have a guy like Moore who has already proven to be more than serviceable, just put on your seat belt, enjoy the ride and we'll see where we end up..

LMAO.. . yeah, because Delhomme is gone and replaced by a guy with 8 career starts in the NFL, but Fox is back to his old ways because he won't start a rookie QB, which is the hardest position in all of sports...

I don't get it either... especially when Moore has shown he can play, and Clausen still has a lot of work to do...

I don't understand your Jake reference.....but I'm completely content happy etc... with MM he's good so far he's been solid (poo impressive) I'm not saying start the rook I'm asking where's the competition just to get a look we never gave Jake competition (late in his career) that's why we never knew what MM could really do....that's the change in fox I'm talking deshaun over dw...but it seems like with his lame duck situation he may go with hardy over Eb to show a lil growth.....

[panthers55]

Due to the hype of Clausen's potential and the skills he already produces, I would expect him to be the QB of the future.. this I do agree with.. and find myself hoping he is the real deal (if not elite)..

I'm not sure I buy because the coaches like him more than expected means he'll be playing sooner than later.. Sure, in a year, is a definite possibility.. But not this year, or perhaps I'm hoping for: not this year..

if he plays with the 1s, that could lend us evidence.. I just don't see the benefit of throwing him in there this year.. not to mention the money Moore is getting, but then they may look at that as a byproduct of ensuring there is at least 1 decent QB on the roster before Clausen was even picked.. perhaps they are willing to ignore that money if Clausen plays better.. I'm just not sure how much better he is going to play in his rookie year than Moore..

and I definitely don't see the benefit of throwing him in the Lion's den this early.. The one positive we have to offer than most other rookie QB's is our OLine play, but even the Jets OLine couldn't keep Sanchez from throwing a shitload of INTs...

I'm sure you agree with most of this, I'm just speaking out loud...

I think you and I are on the same page regarding letting Moore start and grooming Clausen for down the road. I will be interested to see if the FO agrees or if they are looking further down the road or not. We want to win now and build for the future. The question is whether if Fox is gone already they are making this a win now year or writing it off. Whoever starts this year will go a long way to determine that.

[panthers55]

I guess I am in the minority here but I think we should have a qb competition and may the best man win. If Clausen continues to shine I see no reason he shouldn't get the chance to earn the starting spot. I don't buy this he needs to sit for a year or 2 crap anyway. This kid is more polished than other qb's like Flacco who have come out and had early sucsess

They compete everyday and from all reports, Moore is winning.

[Guild]

They compete everyday and from all reports, Moore is winning.

This is what I thought.

If Clausen was better then he would start there is no reason to give anyone (Delhomme) a free pass.

[panthers55]

First of all, Kyle Orton looked much better against the 1's than Matt Moore. Not judging Moore, only responding because you are comparing games. Second, The Golden Calf of Bristol was playing against the threes and not the twos like Clausen. Third, Tebows stats look great but the feedback on his play has been anything but good. He exposed the football multiple times and went right back to his cannon throwing motion - check youtube you will see exactly what I am talking about. No way that translates against a starting defense.

I wasn't comparing games, I was comparing Clausen to The Golden Calf of Bristol only. And Clausen was playing against the 2s, 3s, 1s, and whoever they could cobble together with all the injuries Baltimore had in the secondary. You will see this week, most secondaries will be much better than Baltimore. And I thought Clausen despite his stats has some fundamental problems as well which is why I compared them.

And I think I said that The Golden Calf of Bristol was a project as well. My point was Denver isn't rushing The Golden Calf of Bristol and he looked better than Clausen. Don't see why folks are rushing Clausen either.

[panthers55]

I actually would not be surprised in Clausen gets some time this pre-season with the 1's.

I wish he would. Then when he doesn't look all that great we can put all this competition crap to bed. He will have gotten his shot and shown that a clipboard is well suited for him.

[bleys]

I don't understand your Jake reference.....but I'm completely content happy etc... with MM he's good so far he's been solid (poo impressive) I'm not saying start the rook I'm asking where's the competition just to get a look we never gave Jake competition (late in his career) that's why we never knew what MM could really do....that's the change in fox I'm talking deshaun over dw...but it seems like with his lame duck situation he may go with hardy over Eb to show a lil growth.....

nevermind, I see where you are coming from..

I was throwing Jake in there because I don't see how Fox is "going back into his old ways" by not starting a rookie over a player with 3 years of experience.. They both are pretty green.. Clausen much more greener... and like P55 says, out in practice it appears Moore is winning..

I think you and I are on the same page regarding letting Moore start and grooming Clausen for down the road. I will be interested to see if the FO agrees or if they are looking further down the road or not. We want to win now and build for the future. The question is whether if Fox is gone already they are making this a win now year or writing it off. Whoever starts this year will go a long way to determine that.

I follow ya.. actions speak louder than words and maybe we gain some insight if that were to happen..

[The Saltman]

And I think I said that The Golden Calf of Bristol was a project as well. My point was Denver isn't rushing The Golden Calf of Bristol and he looked better than Clausen. Don't see why folks are rushing Clausen either.

Except for that interception which wasn't even Clausen's fault you think The Golden Calf of Bristol did better than Clausen? What game were you watching?

[panthers55]

How come that's not the answer that's what I ponder....Running with the ones he may or may not be more effective it's not unthinkable....We won't know until we try..Just when I thought fox was growing from his old stubborn ways....& it seems like he is with his current contract situation (Hardy a lil ahead of Eb which is justified) from my evo so it looks diff

Truth is that running with the 1s at this point may not be an advantage. The starting line sucked, King is not a passing threat and frankly Moore and Jarrett don't look better to me than LaFell and Wright. If he plays with the 1s though he gets an opposing defense that is much better with players that aren't that much of an upgrade.

I would like to see it so we put all this controversy to rest when Moore plays better.

[trucpfan]

They compete everyday and from all reports, Moore is winning.

If he's rocking with the 2's maybe that's why he doesn't look better.....poo MM was with the 2's last year & most thought he looked like cantwell....got to actually play & we realized hey he has talent. In turn give the kid some competition with the JC with ones and then tell me what you think....I know groom em slow I seen the Phillip R & I've also seen Matt R & Joe F some players have that look in their eye...Hahahaha that was somebodys funny thread...

[panthers55]

Except for that interception which wasn't even Clausen's fault you think The Golden Calf of Bristol did better than Clausen? What game were you watching?

I watched both. The Golden Calf of Bristol had issues and so did Clausen. Truth is Clausen threw 3 balls that should have been picked. The one that was, the Moore pass, and the one to the back in traffic.

He really threw 1 good ball to Rosario and that is it. He is a project like The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[The Saltman]

I watched both. The Golden Calf of Bristol had issues and so did Clausen. Truth is Clausen threw 3 balls that should have been picked. The one that was, the Moore pass, and the one to the back in traffic.

He really threw 1 good ball to Rosario and that is it. He is a project like The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Im just saying The Golden Calf of Bristol had 1 good throw and then he looked like he was about to get raped every play. At least Clausen threw some good balls and looked poised. I just don't agree that The Golden Calf of Bristol looked better than Clausen.

[panthers55]

If he's rocking with the 2's maybe that's why he doesn't look better.....poo MM was with the 2's last year & most thought he looked like cantwell....got to actually play & we realized hey he has talent. In turn give the kid some competition with the JC with ones and then tell me what you think....I know groom em slow I seen the Phillip R & I've also seen Matt R & Joe F some players have that look in their eye...Hahahaha that was somebodys funny thread...

Exhibit A for why I wish he would get work with the 1s. Then maybe some of this type of conversation would either escalate if he does well or more likely go away when we see what he can really do.

[Guild]

Im just saying The Golden Calf of Bristol had 1 good throw and then he looked like he was about to get raped every play. At least Clausen threw some good balls and looked poised. I just don't agree that The Golden Calf of Bristol looked better than Clausen.

Not saying The Golden Calf of Bristol was good or anything but he did have more than one good throw. One in particular was really nice and the receiver who had two steps on the CB in single coverage dropped the ball.

His delivery looks almost as long as Leftwich's though.

The only thing that impressed me with Clausen was his willingness to break out of the pocket if he came under pressure rather than take a sack straightaway. He was also very aware of his checkdown.