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Per Yasinskas: Quarterback Competition?

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Again you got nothing. 2 of the five didn't even start which means you don't check your facts, none of them did well as rookies and how they finished their careers is a total red herring and off the subject. For everyone that started early and eventually did fine I can show you 5 that did better by sitting. I can even show you guys like Young who started as a rookie, sucked big time and after sitting the bench behind a veteran like Montana came in later and played great. Why not quit why you are behind. You really have no argument at all. Then on top of it even if you were right, which you aren't, that whole line of posts means nothing anyway. It surely doesn't address why Clausen should start over Moore. Now you are just arguing to win some kind of pissing contest when you have nothing left.

Ok man, you're right I give, you have proven everything right thus far...like the tipped pass, the interception, etc etc...I give you definitely know what your talking about when it comes to football...keep up the good work and keep the rest of us informed because we obviously miss a lot of things. I’m now quitting while I’m behind

Good day sir!

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Again you got nothing. 2 of the five didn't even start which means you don't check your facts, none of them did well as rookies and how they finished their careers is a total red herring and off the subject. For everyone that started early and eventually did fine I can show you 5 that did better by sitting. I can even show you guys like Young who started as a rookie, sucked big time and after sitting the bench behind a veteran like Montana came in later and played great. Why not quit why you are behind. You really have no argument at all. Then on top of it even if you were right, which you aren't, that whole line of posts means nothing anyway. It surely doesn't address why Clausen should start over Moore. Now you are just arguing to win some kind of pissing contest when you have nothing left.

Since you think Moore is that good for it not to be a question why in the F*** does he only have a 1 year contract, and why did we draft Clausen? Would seem to me if he was so good to have it sowed up they would have gave him something... oh but wait they don't really know if he can play yet either so Clausen could get the start if he outshines Moore huh.

You & other religious people> "NO MOORE IS A VETERAN AND PLAYED BETTER THAN JAKE LAST YEAR"!

"IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN SO IT CANT HAPPEN NOW"!

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MOORE PLAYED LIKE 6 GAMES AND DID GREAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE BEST 1 & 2 RB'S IN THE NFL"!

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Since you think Moore is that good for it not to be a question why in the F*** does he only have a 1 year contract, and why did we draft Clausen? Would seem to me if he was so good to have it sowed up they would have gave him something... oh but wait they don't really know if he can play yet either so Clausen could get the start if he outshines Moore huh.

You & other religious people> "NO MOORE IS A VETERAN AND PLAYED BETTER THAN JAKE LAST YEAR"!

"IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT OFTEN SO IT CANT HAPPEN NOW"!

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MOORE PLAYED LIKE 6 GAMES AND DID GREAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE BEST 1 & 2 RB'S IN THE NFL"!

ETC

You are obviously new here or you would already know that we have discussed this ad nauseum. In fact I was one of the first folks to come out and say that I think that Clausen will be the starter next year because as you say, he has a 4 year cheap contract. Moore if he plays well will want 6-8 million minimum. Does the fact that William's contract expires suggest we don't want him or that he sucks? What about Kalil, Louis, and half the starting lineup. Moore was given a 1 year tender offer because it was cheaper than signing him long-term. And cheap is the operating word right now. That and the looming CBA.

That assumes that Richardson keeps his stingy ways of this year (actually uncharactersitic of him historically) and go for cheap.

If you look at Gantt's thread you will see that it is sewn up. If you know Fox at all you know that he prefers veteran quarterbacks over rookies. There is no competition for the starter job outside of in your own little minds on the forum. Moore will start and keep starting unless he screws up big time or gets hurt.

So why keep arguing about something that isn't going to happen. Go make another thread about how unfair it is that Clausen isn't getting a chance or how wrong Gantt is, but this thread is really done. Clausen will not start opening day barring injury. You can take it to the bank.

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From everything I have seen over the years I don't beleive it was Weiss. When he left New England they kept on without a hitch. In fact they have replaced offensive coordinators ongoingly and don't miss a beat. After all these years it seems more Belicheck and the system more than any one coach. Cassel came in with no experience with Weiss and looked great. Now Weiss gets a chance with him in KC, lets see what happens.

No credit for Weis? The Panthers are running his offense lol.

Belicheck got the Patriots to win, but he had little to do with Brady's development as quarterback and I stress little. He was a defensive guy his entire career. Weis conversely at Notre Dame proved that he can field a top 10 offense in the nation and still not win any games.

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1.Yes you were saying that rookies do respectable which the facts show was wrong for 3 of the 5 rookies you noted. And if you look at Rodgers, Brady and Romo you will see that in fact grooming rookies does make them better when they actually start.

2. We do know who the best quarterback is, you just don't want to see what the team and players already know. And if Moore's game experience counts more than preseason than it shouldn't matter how they do in preseason. It is really 3 meaningless games versus 8 regular season games. (the fourth game is meaningless for both of them). Clausen playing better than Moore still wouldn't matter that much in the preseason although I doubt it happens.

3. Stats make a hell of lot more sense than all of our observations and subjective opinions. Stats are facts, plain and simple. The analysis of the facts can be skewed but the numbers remain the same. Most people who use your argument that stats don't matter do so after they have been proven wrong and like you don't know what else to say.

You like to make a lot of inaccurate blanket statements about what other people say. Rookie QBs can perform respectably. Not all do. How is that difficult to grasp?

Your entire statement about who the best QB is is irrelevant because the season is still a month away. I can make this factual statement: Nobody knows who the best QB will be at the end of camp. How is that difficult to grasp?

It's your opinion that analyzing stats are the best way to debate how good a player is....I have a different opinion

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Again you got nothing. 2 of the five didn't even start which means you don't check your facts, none of them did well as rookies and how they finished their careers is a total red herring and off the subject. For everyone that started early and eventually did fine I can show you 5 that did better by sitting. I can even show you guys like Young who started as a rookie, sucked big time and after sitting the bench behind a veteran like Montana came in later and played great. Why not quit why you are behind. You really have no argument at all. Then on top of it even if you were right, which you aren't, that whole line of posts means nothing anyway. It surely doesn't address why Clausen should start over Moore. Now you are just arguing to win some kind of pissing contest when you have nothing left.

This is what i was thinking, you name me 5, ill name you 55.

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You like to make a lot of inaccurate blanket statements about what other people say. Rookie QBs can perform respectably. Not all do. How is that difficult to grasp?

Your entire statement about who the best QB is is irrelevant because the season is still a month away. I can make this factual statement: Nobody knows who the best QB will be at the end of camp. How is that difficult to grasp?

It's your opinion that analyzing stats are the best way to debate how good a player is....I have a different opinion

I dont think he is arguing who is better, he is just speaking the obvious truth from the past: It is Moore's job to lose. Clausen will probably be better than Moore eventually, is he better now? Who knows? Im not even sure if our coaches know. But they do know that our team played very well with Moore at the helm and they anticipate keeping that momentum.

It is very simple really. Most of you guys hate Fox for what he is, would rather have a river boat gambler coach that wins big or loses big. Fox is consistent, goes with what he knows. He knows much more than any of us on this fat mans gathering of a message board, but we should all know his tendencies, and we should all know how Moore finished last season and know that vets get the nod until they lose it. Right or wrong, that is your own little two-penny opinion.

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I dont think he is arguing who is better, he is just speaking the obvious truth from the past: It is Moore's job to lose. Clausen will probably be better than Moore eventually, is he better now? Who knows? Im not even sure if our coaches know. But they do know that our team played very well with Moore at the helm and they anticipate keeping that momentum.

It is very simple really. Most of you guys hate Fox for what he is, would rather have a river boat gambler coach that wins big or loses big. Fox is consistent, goes with what he knows. He knows much more than any of us on this fat mans gathering of a message board, but we should all know his tendencies, and we should all know how Moore finished last season and know that vets get the nod until they lose it. Right or wrong, that is your own little two-penny opinion.

This same logic was used to justify Cantwell as the backup and well we saw how long that lasted.

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Only Jesusthug would try to turn this into a debate about religion. I can tell he's going to be a quality poster here for some time to come.

Funny thing is I have no god- I can tell you have been a quality poster for a long time with a post like that!! ha

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