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How many of you still have faith in Fox?

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I hope he proves you wrong next year. And we might as well trust in Fox, because he'll be guiding the ship for at least a year or two more. If not longer. :cheers2:

I do hope he can prove me wrong next year. But I highly doubt this team will make playoff if no major changes are made in the off season.

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This comment puts you in the category of "has no clue what he's talking about."

Just a little bump for those that love Foxy. Do you still love him? You say this but then say How The Golden Calf of Bristol is not a reliable QB... Gosh I wonder if I should listen to you???? hhhhhmmmmmm I say no.

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Just a little bump for those that love Foxy. Do you still love him? You say this but then say How The Golden Calf of Bristol is not a reliable QB... Gosh I wonder if I should listen to you???? hhhhhmmmmmm I say no.

I made that comment when you said "Anything less than a superbowl win and he's fired." That's obviously not true. If he won the division again, or made a strong playoff appearance with a wild card, that would be plenty to keep his job. Regardless, I think we'll go something like 7-9 and he'll keep his job anyway. There was nothing in that post or any of my other posts to suggest that I "love Foxy."

And yeah, you're right. The Golden Calf of Bristol's a great passer. You're smarter than the vast majority of NFL Scouts who believe he has no chance as an NFL QB.

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:lol: NFL scouts are never wrong.....Ryan Leaf??

Sure, they're wrong sometimes. But The Golden Calf of Bristol does not fit our offense the way it is right now. If he's still available in the 5th, I'd take him, but no sooner. And even if we did pick him up, it wouldn't be as our next passing quarterback. He doesn't have the accuracy or the arm strength to dish downfield like we need him to. Obviously Jake doesn't have that right now, either, but The Golden Calf of Bristol is not the solution to our QB problems.

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