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How many of you still have faith in Fox?

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blackcatfever Newbie

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12-4 is 12-4. Who else out there would be able to do that?

I have believed all along we did not deserve credit for a 12-4 season. We had a VERY favorable schedule. We played the AFC west, the worst division in the NFL this season, and NFC North, which gave us Detroit. Aside from our division games, we had a schedule full of gimmes. Even some games that were gimmes, we had to come from behind on and barely won.

So don't give Fox too much credit for a 12-4 season. Is he a good coach? Yes. Is he a great coach? No. Could we do better? Probably, but you have to make a decision on taking the risk of taking steps back in order to move forward. Fox is here, and I support him enough for now, but let's not say he's a great coach because of a record inflated by weak opponents.

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I don't think that Fox is so much the problem. We did have one of our highest scoring offenses ever, though our defense feel apart in the last 5 or 6 weeks of the season. But I do agree that he needs to start holding players (and coaches) accountable for their actions. Just because a game was won, does not mean that something didn't go wrong. And I also agree that he needs to quit sitting on leads. Just because you are up by 20 pts in the 3rd quarter, does not mean a good offense cant come back. I just think he needs to hold players accountable for poor seasons.

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My faith in Fox has waivered the past 2 seasons......12-4 was great but to lay an egg like that on Saturday night with the whole country watching was pathetic.... The problem is - who are we gonna get that is better than Fox? If Cowher agrees to come on board, I say grab him. One thing about a Cowher coached team is they are always playing with emotion. One more thing.....Ken Whisenhunt was the OC when Cowher was in Pittsburgh.

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Our poor performance has more to do with poor coaching by the coordinators then it dose about Fox. The Head coaches job is to motivate his players and well the team has never given up. Pep is the only one that sounds like he is giving up and some how that dose not surprise me.

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With all the talk about Cowher replacing Fox, as a lifelong terrible towel head, I can tell you that the Panthers boards read just like the Pittsburghers discussions for years WITH Cowher...too conservative...open up the playbook...yada, yada, yada....Stick with Fox...he is a great coach. The only reason there is a Carolina clamor for Cowher is that the front office in Pitt stuck with him when everyone demanded his head on a platter. It took a while, but the Chin delivered! Fox will too. Leave him be!

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I've been thinking that Fox has reached his ceiling of success for the past 2 years. It's clear that his conservative philosophy will only get us so far and will not produce a consistent winner. This should be a very interesting offseason, but I don't foresee the necessary changes to make us more than above average at this point.

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I'm officially finished with his philosophies. He's been inconsistent this year. If he somehow can become a Bilicheck or Fisher, coaches that recognize changes and make adjustments no matter what they believe in, then we can talk

I believe it all came to a end in the 05 NFC Championship game. Henning said it wasn't all his fault after a disappointing 06 season. And that opened my eyes a lil bit

Last year I liked the idea of Jake throwing the ball around to different receivers, and abandoning that this year eventually hurt us when it mattered. Not activating both Jarrett and Hackett when they were healthy. Except last year the receivers wasn't that good. I highly doubt Fox spreads the field this year, making teams respect we have more people to go to than just Smith. We need a official good starting 2 this year, Moose gotta drop to 3. Playing conservative with a lead hurt us in the Giants game, and almost hurt us in the Packers game

We all know the defense issues. No more soft zone b.s. No more rushing just 4, but bring blitzes. Multiple blitz packages that work

Those things, I dont see happening with Fox. Sorry. I could careless about the record, thats one main problem too. Winning, things stay in place. We you lose you try ya hardest to win, so changes come. Without that ring, the season doesn't matter. Especially with a good record, and one and done in the playoffs. That embarrassment wiped away that 12-4

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I do....we still finished 12-4 and won the NFC South.

If the Panthers finish anything less than that next season with the talent we have then yes...maybe I will be yelling for his head.

We have one of the toughest schedules next year. It's going to be tough to go 12-4 again. If we manage to go 12-4 next year, then we are going to the Superbowl.

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