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Game plan criticism from an odd source

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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prowler2k8 Newbie

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Not only abandoning the run but sh*t like sending Moose on a deep route?

Ugh.

I will never understand why we keep sending Moose, who has never been known as a "speed" receiver, on deep routes. WTH is that all about? I can only think of two occassions where this worked out, both were trick plays with the lucky catch in NY and the catch and fumble in GB.

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ShutDwn Newbie

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Davidson stuck with the run, he ran the normal amount Delhomme just didn't protect the ball.

The Cardinals sold out against the run on the first few downs, got us in 3rd and long, and we never converted, mostly cause of turnovers.

If Jake doesn't turn the ball over we could have stuck with the gameplan.

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I think if you secretly polled the team, they'd all say wtf? It's impossible for everyone in the world to see that all we had to do was run the ball and cover Fitzgerald and yet we did exactly the opposite.

...by the way, it was just reported on the radio that Delhomme threw yet another interception this morning.

I hope he has all the chidrens he wants already, because i don't think can hit poo anymore with a positive outcome.

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But as I've said several times over, there was no fluidity to the game he called. Our offense never established a flow. Jake would've been better off throwing the ball out of bounds everytime he dropped back with the game that was called. It was predictable to anyone that watched the game what we were going to do. And the times we passed when they thought we would run didn't matter because our routes may have been designed in crayon. Wait, I won't even give them that much creative credit... They're simple to say the least.

Davidson has done great things for the run game, but he definitely needs to improve his passing plays and play calling. Look at Pittsburgh's play book, always run heavy, but always has a wrinkle or creative hitch to keep opponents off balance. And BTW, if you watched their game, notice how many WRs they keep active (more than us) and their use of tight sets such as tight trips... We should take notes.

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Agree on Pitt's looks. Which is my biggest beef on both sides of the balls. At the very LEAST, show some different looks that make a team adjust.

The Panthers put King out wide and AZ didn't flinch.

On 5 consecutive drives on 1st down the Panthers passed. Two were picks.

It just doesn't make sense. How many of us groan during the live game threads of running on 1st down?

Heck, if you are going to pass on 1st, do a high% pass like a screen. Bring in the rush, dump it off and let your stud rb's do some damage. Worse case it goes a few yards and keeps the O on the field.

Just so many things to point to that make you scratch your head.

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Agree on Pitt's looks. Which is my biggest beef on both sides of the balls. At the very LEAST, show some different looks that make a team adjust.

The Panthers put King out wide and AZ didn't flinch.

On 5 consecutive drives on 1st down the Panthers passed. Two were picks.

It just doesn't make sense. How many of us groan during the live game threads of running on 1st down?

Heck, if you are going to pass on 1st, do a high% pass like a screen. Bring in the rush, dump it off and let your stud rb's do some damage. Worse case it goes a few yards and keeps the O on the field.

Just so many things to point to that make you scratch your head.

No one complains if Jake completes those passes and loosens the defense, instead he throws dumbass passes. Nothing tricky about the coverage, at all.

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After reading around about the game and Arizona's preperation it appears they knew exactly what we were going to do. They added a new play for Fitz to run against our soft zone and he gained 40 yards on it. They also added a wrinkle to their red zone defense because they saw a tendency in Jake that lead to Delhomme's 2nd quarter pick. After reading this stuff it makes seem like we were so outclassed in coaching that only perfect execution would have given us a chance.

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Proudiddy Grand Master

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Agree on Pitt's looks. Which is my biggest beef on both sides of the balls. At the very LEAST, show some different looks that make a team adjust.

The Panthers put King out wide and AZ didn't flinch.

On 5 consecutive drives on 1st down the Panthers passed. Two were picks.

It just doesn't make sense. How many of us groan during the live game threads of running on 1st down?

Heck, if you are going to pass on 1st, do a high% pass like a screen. Bring in the rush, dump it off and let your stud rb's do some damage. Worse case it goes a few yards and keeps the O on the field.

Just so many things to point to that make you scratch your head.

agreed.

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You guys are reading Hoover's statment wrong, he said we COULD have IF we didnt get in such hole. He's not questioning the coach or saying we should have

Did we get away from it to quick? Maybe, but when the opponent scores on five consecutive drives, and your defence show no signs of stopping it, running doesnt look all that good.

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