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The Problem is Fox....Period

carolinaAl

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I have never been a Fox basher but I really think the problem is him. His whole

" there are no ugly wins-they are all beautiful" routine makes me sick.

I have seen Ditka, Roy Williams adn Larry Brown in basketball, Cowher, and others , get in players faces when they were up by 20.

Also after crappy wins like ours in San Diego, Oakland, Detroit, and how many others, those coaches would be like- we were lucky to escape with a win today, we have alot of work to do, or something to that affect.

Not that Fox bs we were good enough to be 9-3 or 10-4 or whatever. Or there are no ugly wins, they are all beautiful. I am sorry, the manner in which you win is a direct reflection of how good your team is, for real. If you are falling behind and having to catch up and be " Cardiac" all the time, something is wrong.

We need an aggressive coach. A team takes on the identity of it's coach and because of that our coach adn team are sitting on the couch now.

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I do think the whole Jerry Richardson vision of a "Steelers South" is based less on a 3-4 defense....the Chin....and more like sticking with a coach through thick and thin for decades. Fox seems safe......but I have to say I think Marty Hurney has separated himself from the duo.

I do not think both of their fates are tied together anymore like they were last season. I like Hurney, for the most part, and think we have had a couple of great drafts recently. Lets see what happens in the off season. Letting Fox not hold players totally accountable, means Hurney permits this as well.....so before I shower Hurney with more accolades I will see how we handle that umm.....Defensive coordinator. I am expecting to be underwhelmed.

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"i made the playoffs. my job is done here. bye"

that was the attitude I sensed from Fox this season. We looked like a team that didn't even try to have a plan to win on Saturday night.

12-4, division champs, it's all beautiful but you only get so many chances to win in the NFL. Peppers could be gone, Gross too. We made a really shitty effort to string together a win and I think Fox folded and doesn't really care because expecations are so low in Charlotte.

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I've never liked Fox. Even with all of his success, I've always felt like our team could be better. I've never agreed with a lot of his football philosophies on offense and defense. His "All In" season came to a dramatic halt due to his conservative, unimaginative, same old play calling that we see ALL season long. The lack of preparation is inexcusable. What exactly was our game plan? Maybe now he'll consider having back up plans or adjusting during the game, his biggest challenges yet.

Cowher wants this job, give it to him. Though we all know Fox will still be here next year.

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I've never liked Fox. Even with all of his success, I've always felt like our team could be better. I've never agreed with a lot of his football philosophies on offense and defense. His "All In" season came to a dramatic halt due to his conservative, unimaginative, same old play calling that we see ALL season long. The lack of preparation is inexcusable. What exactly was our game plan? Maybe now he'll consider having back up plans or adjusting during the game, his biggest challenges yet.

Cowher wants this job, give it to him. Though we all know Fox will still be here next year.

conservative ? What the hell is conservative about a greater than 2:1 pass to run ratio? I think if anything they tried to get much too cute and get it back all at once. This seeemed more of a case of getting too cute to me. Hell they were running the no huddle in the first half. How many times have the Panthers done that under Fox?

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conservative ? What the hell is conservative about a greater than 2:1 pass to run ratio? I think if anything they tried to get much too cute and get it back all at once. This seeemed more of a case of getting too cute to me. Hell they were running the no huddle in the first half. How many times have the Panthers done that under Fox?

Exactly, after the fumble the offense went into bombs away to Steve Smith! Took out Deangelo because of the rotation.

If you QB is struggling you keep running. We all complain that we should mix it up but I thought we got real cute...playing that reverse-reverse psychology. I was shocked how little they tried to get it to smith underneath...or on reverses. oh no...there I go getting mad again.....deep breath....good

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conservative ? What the hell is conservative about a greater than 2:1 pass to run ratio? I think if anything they tried to get much too cute and get it back all at once. This seeemed more of a case of getting too cute to me. Hell they were running the no huddle in the first half. How many times have the Panthers done that under Fox?

You're right. I guess I was more thinking of his over all tendencies when writing this... this did not look like a Fox playoff game. He is usually a horse of a different color come post season.

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