So what is your draft strategy after today?

[frankw]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

You can have your strategy and I can have mine bro. Respect your opinion and I never said you don’t pick up the phone if someone calls. But initiating a trade back indicates lack of preparation. Especially in the first round. 

Panthers have done this under Fitterer ultimately at a waste. We have a top ten pick. Take a top talent at 8 and keep it pushing. This trying to be the smartest guy in the room act is what got Scott Fitterer in trouble in every draft.

[Swaggasaurus]

I read these threads and go back and watch more Jalon Walker and I never see that he’s an elite inside backer on 1/2 down. He doesn’t make high level plays vs the run at that spot. He makes his plays as an edge rusher or as a blitzer/spy at inside backer on 3rd down. Thats fine as a pick at 8, he’s as good an edge rusher as anyone else as 8 and his blitz from inside and spy is a good asset in passing situations. But I keep reading y’all typing ILB, but the film don’t match. Are y’all saying ILB off height and weight or what? A hunch? 

[flagfootballcoach28]

4 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Not much different tbh. If Graham is there he’s still a good pick. Brown/Brown/Graham in 3-4 looks with Wharton on a frequent rotation.  LDE/Brown/Brown/Graham or LDE/Brown/Graham/D Brown on 4-3 looks.  Clowney can be that LDE for now.  We don’t have much in the way of pass rushers for either set as of now, nor LBs. 

I still see McMillen as a strong option if he’s there, I’d probably rather that than dropping $35mil a year and draft picks on trading for a #1 WR. I like XL, I have faith he’ll develop, but giving him a strong running mate would boost that development (Thielen has been great but he’s not the best complement to XL nor a long term solution.)

Im not crazy about the CBs in this draft. I’d only want Johnson or someone if we trade down quite a bit. 

Still not completely sold on Walker but if they take him I’ll get on board. Same with any of the pass rushers. 

We still need a good Safety but I doubt any are worth a top half 1st rd pick. 2nd round on I hope we take one. 

Do we really think Dan Morgan wants his 18 million DT as a rotational player? Also, what about in Nickel when only two DT’s are on the field? Yes, we run a 3/4 but casual fans don’t realize how often NFL defenses are in Nickel with how pass happy the league is. That’s just a lot of $$ on the sideline watching when we’re in desperate need for help in other places.. We don’t have the luxury to hoard DT’s when we lack talent at LB, edge, CB, WR, Safety, TE, RB etc. I’m a huge Graham fan, but I’d be stunned if we take him given how much money we have invested in DT. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Panthering said:

I think the strategy now is to either draft the best pass rusher available or flip to the other side and get Bryce a weapon like TMac or Warren. We are still a bit infatuated with athletic traits over football skills so a good chance that it's TMac. 

I think T-Mac is kind of the opposite. There are definite questions about his speed. If everyone thought he was a 4.4 flat guy he'd probably be a top 5 lock.

Us being involved in the Metcalf trade sweepstakes tells me that if we like T-Mac he's probably very much in consideration at #8.

[Chief Keek]

20 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I would be open to that, but who would be there for someone to trade up for is the dilemma of the situation. 

I can see one of the T or QB falling and being available at 8.

[flagfootballcoach28]

13 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

I read these threads and go back and watch more Jalon Walker and I never see that he’s an elite inside backer on 1/2 down. He doesn’t make high level plays vs the run at that spot. He makes his plays as an edge rusher or as a blitzer/spy at inside backer on 3rd down. Thats fine as a pick at 8, he’s as good an edge rusher as anyone else as 8 and his blitz from inside and spy is a good asset in passing situations. But I keep reading y’all typing ILB, but the film don’t match. Are y’all saying ILB off height and weight or what? A hunch? 

Because I’d bet serious money that most posters who love Walker don’t watch his film. They watch his highlights and press conference interviews and get enamored with how well spoken he is. If being well spoken made you a great player, then Myron Rolle would have been a first ballot hall of famer. Facts are he’s undersized at both ILB and Edge and it shows on his film. He gets washed out of plays very easily. Struggles to get off blocks. Id rather him be that boom or bust prospect for another NFL franchise. 

[Panthering]

15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think T-Mac is kind of the opposite. There are definite questions about his speed. If everyone thought he was a 4.4 flat guy he'd probably be a top 5 lock.

Us being involved in the Metcalf trade sweepstakes tells me that if we like T-Mac he's probably very much in consideration at #8.

I did not pay attention to the combine this year, did he even participate? Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing anything about him come across my feed.

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, Panthering said:

I did not pay attention to the combine this year, did he even participate? Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing anything about him come across my feed.

Nope. Top prospects not doing drills at the Combine has unfortunately become the norm. I mean, I don't blame them. There's more potential risk than potential reward but I definitely miss the days when pretty much everyone who was healthy participated.

[Jon Snow]

24 minutes ago, Chief Keek said:

I can see one of the T or QB falling and being available at 8.

Maybe if Howard is there but if Ward it off the board there's not a qb worth trading up for. A team can just stat put and take who they want among the rest.

[Basbear]

19 hours ago, imminent rogaine said:

Some kind of Malinois looking dog?

 

Yes the Belgian Malinois, most special dogs around..

 

first dog was Tibetan Mastiff.

 

if you want some dogs, hard to find more loyal, tougher, and smarter than those two..

[Bostonheelfish]

I think the attraction with Walker, especially considering the FA bolstering of our DL and the attacking SS we signed is that we can now have an attacking defense with Walker that will allow us to disguise pressure. Walker and the SS can blitz from anywhere, and you won’t know who’s coming. Add in that Jaycee has shown chops blitzing from his CB position, Evero has a lot of flexibility. I wouldn’t be surprised if we go CB in the 2nd if the guy from Florida St. is there. Our secondary is thin, but add another shutdown corner and we’re on our way.

i think Dan has done a good job in FA. He’s allowed us to address depth and quality on offense if BPA is offense, and if BPA is defense we can really turn our defense into a top 10.

i’m not high on Warren at 8. He’s not a top 10 talent at all, and would split snaps with Tremble and Saunders. 

[Swaggasaurus]

4 minutes ago, Bostonheelfish said:

I think the attraction with Walker, especially considering the FA bolstering of our DL and the attacking SS we signed is that we can now have an attacking defense with Walker that will allow us to disguise pressure. Walker and the SS can blitz from anywhere, and you won’t know who’s coming. Add in that Jaycee has shown chops blitzing from his CB position, Evero has a lot of flexibility. I wouldn’t be surprised if we go CB in the 2nd if the guy from Florida St. is there. Our secondary is thin, but add another shutdown corner and we’re on our way.

i think Dan has done a good job in FA. He’s allowed us to address depth and quality on offense if BPA is offense, and if BPA is defense we can really turn our defense into a top 10.

i’m not high on Warren at 8. He’s not a top 10 talent at all, and would split snaps with Tremble and Saunders. 

Sure that makes sense on 3rd down. I think he’s a way better edge rusher than his teammate, pretty on par with Mike Green without character concerns. Better than Pearce too. People on here talking inside backer? He’s slow to read his keys and can’t navigate traffic for poo in the run game as an inside linebacker. 15 better inside backers in this draft.

[Bostonheelfish]

5 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

Sure that makes sense on 3rd down. I think he’s a way better edge rusher than his teammate, pretty on par with Mike Green without character concerns. Better than Pearce too. People on here talking inside backer? He’s slow to read his keys and can’t navigate traffic for poo in the run game as an inside linebacker. 15 better inside backers in this draft.

I don’t think you’re wrong at all, but he may be better with the dudes we have in front of him. I used to want Walker at 8, but would now rather trade back some and see if he’s still around. All depends on who is available at 8. Having said that, if there’s one position I trust Dan Morgan with drafting it’s LB. 

[Panthero]

Looking at the projected depth chart on ourlads it looks like we will draft 

CB

FS

ILB

Edge

Still not sure what the plan on offense is draft wise but those are the biggest "needs" on D. 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by Panthero