Panthers sign Jaycee Horn to $100 million dollar deal

[PleaseCutStewart]

12 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

giving up the opportunity to make 40 mil more just a year later would have been a terrible decision.  even if he got hurt again last year he could have easily gotten 15 on the open market.   and his dad is Joe Horn, he's not broke.

If he had gotten hurt for the year last season, dude is playing on the club option 5th year or getting offered a cheap multi-year contract. If he gets hurt the club option year, he will be getting closer to vet minimum since he proved he couldn't stay healthy 4 consecutive seasons.

Just saying that it wasn't crazy to offer him last offseason and see how close they could get on numbers. Now we paid a dude that has maybe played in 50% of our games a $100 million contract....

 

The dude isn't getting 15 million open market on 3 consecutive injury-riddled seasons. And just because his dad has money doesn't mean he has money...

Edited 6 hours ago by PleaseCutStewart

[CBDellinger]

Just now, PleaseCutStewart said:

If he had gotten hurt for the year last season, dude is playing on the club option 5th year or getting offered a cheap multi-year contract. If he gets hurt the club option year, he will be getting closer to vet minimum since he proved he couldn't stay healthy 4 consecutive seasons.

Just saying that it wasn't crazy to offer him last offseason and see how close they could get on numbers. Now we paid a dude that has maybe played in 50% of our games a $100 million contract....

hes gonna pay on the club 5th year option anyways.  The extension starts in 2026.  a CB with his potential would def get more than vet min.  laughable.

and whos to say they didnt offer him last year?  just means hes not dumb enough to accept it if they did.

 

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

3 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

hes gonna pay on the club 5th year option anyways.  The extension starts in 2026.  a CB with his potential would def get more than vet min.  laughable.

and whos to say they didnt offer him last year?  just means hes not dumb enough to accept it if they did.

 

 

You think an NFL team would give him a 4 year, $60 million contract if Horn played less than half of the team's games in 4 consecutive seasons due to injury? I don't think a team would even offer him a 1 year, $15 million contract unless very little of it was guaranteed and/or it was filled with injury clauses

Edited 6 hours ago by PleaseCutStewart

[ncstatekwi]

We set the tone and market…now that is strategy!!

#DAWGS

[TheBigKat]

This will look fine once sauce signs, market was unfortunately going to get reset anyways

[PleaseCutStewart]

4 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

hes gonna pay on the club 5th year option anyways.  The extension starts in 2026.  a CB with his potential would def get more than vet min.  laughable.

and whos to say they didnt offer him last year?  just means hes not dumb enough to accept it if they did.

 

 

Someone would have leaked it if they were working on a contract last year. Not a peep from anyone tells me that they didn't, and I get it. Panthers didn't want to give out a new contract if he got hurt last year and Horn was banking on staying healthy last year so he could get Surtain level money.

I think both sides just played a shut up and wait and see approach. It worked out for Horn

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Someone would have leaked it if they were working on a contract last year. Not a peep from anyone tells me that they didn't, and I get it. Panthers didn't want to give out a new contract if he got hurt last year and Horn was banking on staying healthy last year so he could get Surtain level money.

I think both sides just played a shut up and wait and see approach. It worked out for Horn

u think, you dont know.  no one knows except them.  and whatever... your assertion they could have had for for less a year ago is a remarkably unserious take that assumes he would have accepted if they offered.  its a ridiculous assumption.  

 

[PleaseCutStewart]

6 minutes ago, CBDellinger said:

u think, you dont know.  no one knows except them.  and whatever... your assertion they could have had for for less a year ago is a remarkably unserious take that assumes he would have accepted if they offered.  its a ridiculous assumption.  

 

Just like you think and don't know...

Anyways, this is a pretty pointless back and forth. Hopefully Horn stays healthy so we don't have to regret this contract

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Just like you think and don't know...

 

yeah I said that already.  good one.

[kungfoodude]

This was not a smart move, IMO.

If you pay a guy like a top 10 at his position, he actually needs to be in the discussion for being that.

Once again, not being smart.

[jb2288]

All about staying healthy but I like us finally paying our howegriwns and building a foundation. This will look like a steal in 2 years if he stays healthy. Obviously a big if. 

[jb2288]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This was not a smart move, IMO.

If you pay a guy like a top 10 at his position, he actually needs to be in the discussion for being that.

Once again, not being smart.

Isn’t he universally considered a top 5 corner? 

[PantherGuy]

Jaycee is a dawg. If we say we want dawgs then we have to reward our guys that show that.

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Isn’t he universally considered a top 5 corner? 

Absolutely not. 

I have never seen him mentioned even in the top 10 at CB. 

He's very good but he has not played like an elite CB often, even when healthy. Also, he is technically coming off arguably his worst season statistically in his career. Nothing terrible but just far from elite.

Hence why I am bristling at the money. He really has to both stay healthy and very much improve his play.

It's not all his fault. The defense is ass and he isn't really playing in a scheme that takes advantage of him correctly, IMO.

Edited 5 hours ago by kungfoodude