Armanti Edwards....

[JakeFlake]

When we drafted him, the first thing in my mind was "wildcat". They sure aren't going to use or try that in the preseason.

[CAVSS]

I said project player not young players. By project I mean that he is learning to do something new.

Thomas Davis was a project, but was drafted in the first round. Now some may say that he was successful and it is very true, but it is my opinion that it is easier to make a position transition on the defensive side of the ball versus the offensive. Defensive is partially instinctual and it helps to adjust, still TD took three years before he was playing at a high level.

Since I am using TD as an example I will also add that he played at the highest level of college competition and not the B league. So, compound Armanti's transition with a significant change in skill level of his peers is going to make this even harder.

Finally I am only commenting on ZOD's comment from Armanti's biggest proponent of all Darin Gantt. So, do not hate on me for giving my opinion, it is like yours, an opinion. Teams swing and miss sometimes and I hope that this will not be one of them. Armanti has talent,and that is undeniable. My argument simply was that for next years second round pick, was there someone else that could have came in and had a bigger impact?

It is very possible that the FO pulled the trigger too early here. I was shocked when the announced it even though I was hoping we would pick him up. But if you look at the way it happened, it appeared to be unplanned. Im assuming that the FO got some intel that someone else was going to ****** him up before they got another shot. From what I understand it is absolute insanity on draft day and the level of spying lying and backstabbing is damn near on par with a presidential election. So maybe they goofed or maybe they knew something that we don't. I assume the latter because they are the guys getting payed to do it. Either way I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[Proudiddy]

The front office is certain of a lockout next year, which means any of next year's picks will possibly spend a year inactive. May have played into their thinking of trading that pick away.

Would definitely make a lot more sense, but I'm still not unhappy that we spent the pick on him.

He is dynamic and once the ball is in his hands, he can take it all the way to the endzone. He has all the abilities and appears to be dedicated to get better everyday.

I have confidence that he will be able to pick up on the punt returning by the time the season opens, so I'm not concerned with it at all. I think Gantt may be over-analyzing Armanti's prospects due to the App St. connection and man-crush he has on him, no offense to Darin.

Is it possible that Armanti will end up on the ACTIVE roster, but won't dress every Sunday? I'm sure it's possible if he doesn't pick things up quickly. BUT, isn't it possible that we could designate him the 3rd QB and save a roster space? I'm not sure what I'm saying, but I'm sure one of you will lol...

[CharlotteBeer.com]

I wasn't a fan of taking him where we did, but that doesn't matter anymore. He's on the team and we can only hope he plays to his potential.

[RealisticFan]

so you also don't believe in drafting qbs higher than the 4th round. As any qb is going to be a project. Davis was also a first round pick, and converted to lb.

The kid has a tone of talent, which is why the panthers drafted him. Whether you agree with or not, isn't going to change the fact. Returning punts isn't something that is easy to get down in a weeks time, plus some mini camps. He eventually get it down, and will get onto the field.

He is not going to be a QB....They are trying to make him a WR/PR. There was a WR/PR that played the position in college and was productive when we traded back into that position in Gilyard.

[AceMan]

Funny that E.Brown AND A.Edwards are both "struggling" right now... :mad2:

Damn future picks!

[pantherfan49]

i would be interested to know how long it took others qb/wr converts to make the change and prove themselves capable. seems like a fairer comparison than matching him up against where the other recievers are at.

anyone know about that?

Randle El was an immediate impact player.

Cribbs still hasn't developed into much a receiver, but he was a marginal returner in year 1 and really developed in subsequent years.

[Samuel L. Jackson]

I sang Gilyard's praises for a long time, and word out of St. Louis is that he is doing everything right and could be a starter...

Sure, I could probably suit up and play WR for the Rams right now, but still... He is doing and saying the right things, and in a selfish way, I hope he proves me right and becomes the player I said he would...

I wanted him way more than LaFell (small hands, drop prone (somewhat proven right so far, from what I hear)), and most certainly more than Edwards...

The brutal truth is that we are a running team and drafted an extra blocking WR, and a gimmick player that could be developed into something in some form one day...

Sooner or later, you'd think the Panthers would draft immediate impact players instead of projects... I guess that is another sign that we are in rebuild mode while trying to stick to our strengths (running)... The problem is, that once you finally get the support from your passing game, your running backs are going to be passed their prime...

[dxpanther]

Randle El was an immediate impact player.

Cribbs still hasn't developed into much a receiver, but he was a marginal returner in year 1 and really developed in subsequent years.

and they were making impacts within the first week of training camp? hmmm interesting.

[Guest TripT]

Just curious, can any of you, especially the detractors, name a single draft pick from the entire draft who has a much to learn as Armanti. Jesus Christ, give the kid at least a little bit of a chance. The kid has great natural ability and will learn the new positions with a little time. Flip it around. LaFell and Moore have had great camps, but I wonder, if the NFL ran the spread offense, how good a camp they or for that matter anyone on the offense would be having if they were moved to a spread QB and told to run the team. Somehow I doubt their camps would be going as well. And for those posters who stated that you don’t loose a second round pick on a project but expect a second round pick to contribute right away, I believe Jarrett was a second round pick and was/is playing his natural position. How has that worked out? All I’m saying is let’s give the rookie a little more time before declaring him a bust.

[Sandy Claws]

Was talking to DG yesterday. He made an interesting point that if Armanti continues to struggle and cannot seem to get the punt return job he may not make the active squad this season. My thinking is that no matter what he makes the squad based solely on the pride of the front office and what they spent to draft him.

Thoughts>?

He didn't say that Edwards wouldn't make the team (as in 53 players on the roster). He said he may not make the "active squad" as in 45 players designated as active for games. Edwards will not be available for another team to sign.

[Zod]

He didn't say that Edwards wouldn't make the team (as in 53 players on the roster). He said he may not make the "active squad" as in 45 players designated as active for games. Edwards will not be available for another team to sign.

Right. they would figure out a way to IR him more than likely.

[tattoorhino]

I still have faith in Armanti. After watching him yesterday at wide reciever he made some nice plays against some good DB's. He does have alot to learn and it is a big transition but the kid knows football and is a baller for sure. Cut him a little slack, he will be one of the great ones in time. I think for what they are asking him to do he is catching on as fast as anyone. He does at least know where to line up unlike some people we know.

[Guest TripT]

Randle El was an immediate impact player.

Cribbs still hasn't developed into much a receiver, but he was a marginal returner in year 1 and really developed in subsequent years.

Randle EL didn't start a single game as a receiver in 2002. And while he was QB at Indiana, he also played receiver his first season and was a KR/PR for 3 of the 4 years there. I think he had just a little bit more experence coming in than AE.