Tyler Brayton....

[BA919]

With all the turnover on the D, Brayton survived the purge. high motor and all he doesn't fit into the youth movement and doesn't make sense at all why hes running with the first team at RDE... which is usually destined for the best pass rushing DE. I love his intensity on game days but hes simply not a pass rusher more of a high effort type... i would much rather see E Brown, Johnson, or even Hardy ( after hearing reports from camp) run the RDE where the best pass rusher is suppose to line up..... any thoughts?...

[g5jamz]

Solid run-D DEs are needed too. Not saying the others do not have that ability, but down-specific qualities are looked at by coaches.

[Wither]

What is the question?

All you said is you don't think he should be starting or playing a lot.

Well, I guess others just think he is better than what you label him as being? I don't know.

[BA919]

Not saying he's a bad player at all but for the best pass rush i believe he needs to work on the left side

[Mr. Burgundy]

Im happy to see any veteran on the field at this point

[panthers55]

Not saying he's a bad player at all but for the best pass rush i believe he needs to work on the left side

Actually Brayton is much quicker than folks give him credit. Go back when he came into the league and compare him to Brown and Johnson, he had better measurables including cones drills, 40 yard dash and was stronger. The reason he doesn't get much hype is because he often gets doubled off the line. Last year our defense was shifted so that Peppers and Lewis had 1 on 1 matchups while Brayton often took on double teams.

As for where he should play, lets see what the team runs this year. The same 4-3 under over as last year or more of a straight up 4-3 or some variation like the Miami 4-3.

[thefuzz]

Peppers was our best rusher, and he played LDE for years.

[rayzor]

seniority gets the RDE starting spot. been that way for a long time and on many teams.

even with that...pass rusher is primarily used/needed on passing downs. need the best run stuffers/containers on other downs which is what brayton is. he is better than anyone on run support. he isn't a liability on the pass rush either but they will probably have someone rotated in on passing downs or shift him to NT like they did last year when they did the 3 man rushes.

[scpanther22]

I think Johnson is playing RE.

[BA919]

he only has like 16 sacks in his 8yr Career... Cj has 10 in three years. say what you want but that's not a lot of production it screams back up role 2 sacks a yr.... Paltry numbers for a starter...

[BA919]

4 forced fumbles in 8 yrs wow...

[panthers55]

he only has like 16 sacks in his 8yr Career... Cj has 10 in three years. say what you want but that's not a lot of production it screams back up role 2 sacks a yr.... Paltry numbers for a starter...

Brayton was miscast in Oakland for years and never reached his potential. He is much better in our system. And as i mentioned he is not out there to pile up the sacks. The line is skewed to the other side so they can pile up the sacks. His job is to take on 1 or 2 players in run defense and pressure the passer when they throw on those downs. He moves inside on passing downs because he can still get better push than out DTs. That could change this year with Tyler and Louis.

Last year he was second in sacks with 5.

Zod put it well last year. He said Brayton was 1 step away from being a pro bowl player at DE. He led the D line in tackles and was second in quarterback pressures with 24 and 7 quarterback hits. Not bad for as little as we pay him.

[Snake]

he only has like 16 sacks in his 8yr Career... Cj has 10 in three years. say what you want but that's not a lot of production it screams back up role 2 sacks a yr.... Paltry numbers for a starter...

Your showing you don't know much about Brayton. He was moved from DE to Jack LB then to DT in oak. Needless to say he was never allow to develope the first part of his career. He is just now coming into his own.

[monstercat]

he only has like 16 sacks in his 8yr Career... Cj has 10 in three years. say what you want but that's not a lot of production it screams back up role 2 sacks a yr.... Paltry numbers for a starter...

Brayton has 9 1/2 sacks in only two years with the Panthers, so you fail.

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