*Depressing Post* This could be the start of a landslide.

[Fox007]

4-12? What are you smoking? I'm seriously beginning to believe that Carolina has the biggest fairweather fan base in the NFL. We went 12-4 against a tough schedule. We had one bad game and all the sudden we're going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL even though we'll have almost the exact same team next year? Get a grip.

It's funny to me that people obviously have NO IDEA what the term "fairweather fan" means.

Not only are you the one smoking something, but apparently not much is going on between your ears either.

We had ONE bad game? Your joking right? You think this is our first bad game this year?

Now if you answered yes to those questions, congratulations, it's obvious you did not watch the panthers play this year.

We didn't have a tough schedule

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d809fbfa9&template=with-video&confirm=true

(SoS is based off the year prior)

Hey, but by all means continue to impress me with your severe lack of knowledge.

Next year we have the second hardest schedule in the league, and won't have the lions, chiefs, or raiders on there to snag some free wins.

We play one team next year that had a losing record, 7-9 Buffalo.

[panthers2u]

4-12? What are you smoking? I'm seriously beginning to believe that Carolina has the biggest fairweather fan base in the NFL. We went 12-4 against a tough schedule. We had one bad game and all the sudden we're going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL even though we'll have almost the exact same team next year? Get a grip.

Excellent point.

Besides, I'd still rather be beaten like a red-headed step child on national television, in the playoffs, at home, in the most humiliating fashion imaginable...than to be a Cowboy fan.

Perspective folks...perspective.

[panthers2u]

BTW...just thinking.

If anybody is thinking of offing themselves...could you send me any cool Panther gear you might have?

I'll pay for the postage.

No sense in that stuff going to waste.

[CosmoGirl]

Sometimes things happen, and franchises don't recover for a couple seasons.

When leaders shat the bed, and the team loses it's faith in them.

When icons, decide they would rather be somewhere else...

When 1st round picks, who finally get it right, leave for a big pay-day.

When the reality that the same ole sh*t just isn't going to ever work set's in.

I am as down right now as I have ever been on Panthers Football. Usually I can see the silver lining after any loss, but today, reading Peppers talking about leaving, knowing Gross is the best LT on the FA market this year, wondering how I can ever have faith in #17 and the coaching staff again.

/wrists:shocked:

Pep's interviews on tv tonight tell me he's gone. Done. It isn't about money for him based on what he's saying. Buh-bye.

If I were him, I'd say that I'd stay provided that Turd goes. Turd is killing him. If I had to subscribe to that philosophy, I'd be unmotivated too.

[CosmoGirl]

Talent is there in the second round.

Right now the f*cking draft is the least of our problems.

Turd needs to finally go.

[Captroop]

No need to completely lose faith just yet. But the thought of Pep leaving is pretty scary

[CosmoGirl]

To me it's pretty simple.

Fire Trgo and replace him with a strong minded young coach who will not just be an extension of Fox and his philosophy. I want the team to continue Foxball, but I don't want Fox trying to be a HC and assistant DC at the same time.

Improve D-line depth and pass rush though the draft and FA.

Bring in some talent and have an open competition for starting QB

Actually, I'd like to see Fox callling the defensive plays. Turd is a turd. Last year when Fox started sitting in on defensive meetings, film-watching, and planning, our D was much better.

Turd should be outta here tomorrow. But Fox's pride will not allow for that.

[CosmoGirl]

Knowing how this organization rolls, the last thing you will see is an open compeition for starting QB. I think they shy away from that type of controversy and media attention. I dont think Fox wants to fire Trgo, I dont think he should anyway, Trgo is just a figurehead extension of his defense. Me personally I dont care what changes we make, Im at peace with the fact we will never win a title with John Fox as our coach and will just tough it out til he's fired in a few years.

Seriously, when Fox took over the D last year, look at how we did. Turd sucks.

[CosmoGirl]

4-12? What are you smoking? I'm seriously beginning to believe that Carolina has the biggest fairweather fan base in the NFL. We went 12-4 against a tough schedule. We had one bad game and all the sudden we're going to be one of the worst teams in the NFL even though we'll have almost the exact same team next year? Get a grip.

Have you looked at our schedule for next season??? Brutal.

[Ccat]

It's funny to me that people obviously have NO IDEA what the term "fairweather fan" means.

Not only are you the one smoking something, but apparently not much is going on between your ears either.

We had ONE bad game? Your joking right? You think this is our first bad game this year?

Now if you answered yes to those questions, congratulations, it's obvious you did not watch the panthers play this year.

We didn't have a tough schedule

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d809fbfa9&template=with-video&confirm=true

(SoS is based off the year prior)

Hey, but by all means continue to impress me with your severe lack of knowledge.

Next year we have the second hardest schedule in the league, and won't have the lions, chiefs, or raiders on there to snag some free wins.

We play one team next year that had a losing record, 7-9 Buffalo.

Actually we were tied for the second hardest schedule in the NFC this year. http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/nfcsosag.html

[AKPantherFan]

That was the honest truth.

Kurb-

You sir are suffering from "Huddleitice"---

Dont listen to all the doom and gloom. Thats why I have said before that "the huddle is where real fans go to die", because of all the negative crap.

Hold your head up man. We will be right back into the thick of things.

I have faith in Richardson, he knows what it takes to win and he will make sure to see it happen.

And we DO have Double Trouble. Thats good for 8 wins by itself.

[CosmoGirl]

unfortunately, i can see a losing record. Atlanta, New Orleans (if they get some defensive players. Also, they went 8-8 with 19 on IR) will be good next year.

I can easily see us getting 3rd place in the division with the tough schedule (I think Tampa will fall apart with Monte leaving and old vets retiring)

Can we please send Turd to New Orleans?

[Hotsauce]

Pep's interviews on tv tonight tell me he's gone. Done. It isn't about money for him based on what he's saying. Buh-bye.

If I were him, I'd say that I'd stay provided that Turd goes. Turd is killing him. If I had to subscribe to that philosophy, I'd be unmotivated too.

I must have missed his interviews....Do you have a link?

[frash.exe]

Pep's interviews on tv tonight tell me he's gone. Done. It isn't about money for him based on what he's saying. Buh-bye.

If I were him, I'd say that I'd stay provided that Turd goes. Turd is killing him. If I had to subscribe to that philosophy, I'd be unmotivated too.

Can't say I'd blame him if he left. Pep knows how good he is, he'll also know if he feels his talent is being wasted here, he can go to a contender AND get paid. A win-win for him, and he absolutely deserves it.

Could be the real reason he never signed an extension here in the first place. Maybe there is more than meets the eye with this extension halt. Every person has secret interests they won't even tell their best friends, let alone trusted teammates.