*Depressing Post* This could be the start of a landslide.

[Kurb]

Sometimes things happen, and franchises don't recover for a couple seasons.

When leaders shat the bed, and the team loses it's faith in them.

When icons, decide they would rather be somewhere else...

When 1st round picks, who finally get it right, leave for a big pay-day.

When the reality that the same ole poo just isn't going to ever work set's in.

I am as down right now as I have ever been on Panthers Football. Usually I can see the silver lining after any loss, but today, reading Peppers talking about leaving, knowing Gross is the best LT on the FA market this year, wondering how I can ever have faith in #17 and the coaching staff again.

/wrists:shocked:

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Too depressing........"you know....I met Brad Hoover's mom at a bar last night...."

[JakeFlake]

and to make things worse ... we have no first round pick and our first pick will be 60 something, barring a trade. Which means our top draft pick will probably be a backup and a special teams guy. Combine that with the potential of some of our free agents leaving ... next year could be scary.

[Kevin Greene]

Hahah, it's always darkest before the dawn.

[OneBadassCat]

We will be ok. We still had a successful season. I know the plan was to win this year but we still have alot to look foward to. Only 2 teams make it to the bowl and you don't always win. I know i sound like fox right now but alot of it is true. We just need a spark on this team, something to jolt us. A qb change might it do it, a new DC might do it.

[Kurb]

and to make things worse ... we have no first round pick and our first pick will be 60 something, barring a trade. Which means our top draft pick will probably be a backup and a special teams guy. Combine that with the potential of some of our free agents leaving ... next year could be scary.

Talent is there in the second round.

Right now the fuging draft is the least of our problems.

[chet90si]

At least the Panthers will be good in Madden next year.

[panthers2u]

Look on the bright side...we have 10 whole years to fix it before the owners can move the team to another city.

[Fiz]

we'll pick up at least another second from the peppers trade

[Go To Girl]

*****slaps Kurb*****

snap out of it

*****slaps Kurb again and leaves******

[TheRed]

Dude what is this reality you speak of.. John Fox is our f*cking coach man... What more could we ask for!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, it could be worse.

[MurkN]

At least we'll have Double Trouble for at least the next 5 years if I'm not mistaken. That's a positive.

[King Taharqa]

This season was the straw that broke the camel's back. The coaching staff and organization poured all their hope into this year after bombing the past 3 and it paid off with a division title. But I think the success of this year will cost us for years to come because we're gonna end up keeping John Fox a year or two longer than we should, and IMO we've kept Delhomme longer than we should (without even attempting to address the future without him). These 2 blunders by management are gonna end up costing them several losing seasons in a row. I see us at 6-10 next year.

[Fright]

And our bright spot at WR, Smitty, is only going to get slower. That alone depresses me. -tear-