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What's the next domino to fall?

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Aussie Tank Grand Master

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With a couple of moves today. Do we see a big domino fall tomorrow before FA?

Does the team extend Horn before we start shelling out cash to FA defenders and ruffle his feathers. Or do we trade for DK to settle that side if the ball and consolidate our focus? 

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I feel like this Horn situation is going the same way as Burns, meaning a player expecting top of the market money when they're not really worth it. They might be better off using that money on pass rushers in FA and use 8 to draft a CB.

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Horn I suspect is gonna take a little while to work on. Also, not sure if that will be a priority at the moment because they have free agency opening up very soon.

I think we will are probably done with our own guys at the moment and will hit free agency hard before maybe circling back to guys like BC, etc.

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54 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Horn I suspect is gonna take a little while to work on. Also, not sure if that will be a priority at the moment because they have free agency opening up very soon.

I think we will are probably done with our own guys at the moment and will hit free agency hard before maybe circling back to guys like BC, etc.

I think they are going to let BC and Jackson hit the market and hope they return home humbled and ready to negotiate a new deal. 

As for Horn, I am not yet drinking his Kool Aid.  I know that he is a talented CB, and I know that we are paying for future production and not past performance, but paying him is more of a gamble than it should be.  If he is unwilling to take an incentives-based contract, I would not consider paying him top dollar.  Heck, if we get better at DT and edge, an average CB becomes a good CB.

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Aussie, I have an idea that the Panthers will sign a DL and S early in free agency.  I also have a feeling that those deals are expensive and already in place to be announced Monday AM.

FWIW, my phone has not been ringing, so it looks as if another year as a free agent will come and go.  I am starting to think it is due to my age (over 50), limited college experience as a backup, injury history, skill level, physical inferiority, and anonymity.  But you never know.

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Well, we got one uninjured and good season from him. And a handful of partial ones due to injuries.

He may get paid a lot more out there on the market than we can wisely do, so... it might be Jaycee's preference to hit the market more than our reluctance to offer a decent contract.

Would like to see him back, but he can't get Top 10 or Top 15 money.

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1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

I think they are going to let BC and Jackson hit the market and hope they return home humbled and ready to negotiate a new deal. 

As for Horn, I am not yet drinking his Kool Aid.  I know that he is a talented CB, and I know that we are paying for future production and not past performance, but paying him is more of a gamble than it should be.  If he is unwilling to take an incentives-based contract, I would not consider paying him top dollar.  Heck, if we get better at DT and edge, an average CB becomes a good CB.

I agree. I think we have largely made our moves for the moment and are going to "shop" a little before circling back to our current guys. Outside Jackson and maybe Woods, I don't think there will be a lot of interest in what we have hitting the market. 

I feel the same about Horn. I am glad he was finally healthy, that was amazing. However, he also wasn't elite. He was just good. So if he is gonna come at us with a top 10 CB ask, I just can't stomach that personally and I would probably actually consider moving him before the draft if that is the way it is going to go. fug the tagging and all that nonsense, get some draft assets and go get another very good CB in the draft instead at a reasonable price tag. I was a Surtain guy orginally, so the whole Horn situation is very frustrating overall. 

 

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I was a Surtain guy orginally, so the whole Horn situation is very frustrating overall. 

 

Surtain got a 4 year 96 million dollar contract. And while Horn was a brightspot, we still have the worst defense in the league (with or without). That contract would have to be insanely incentive based..

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Horn is under contract still anyway, we cannot afford to pay him 25-30m a season to go ride IR.

I like him, but dont trust him to stay healthy or play thru the pain. I suspect he would get the bag and go nurse a minor injury every chance he gets.  

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1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

Horn is under contract still anyway, we cannot afford to pay him 25-30m a season to go ride IR.

buckle up

 

I dont think the number is 25 but I would be will to say its probably close to 23 when the dust settles, he has us over a barrel

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