Free Agency: QB Musical Chairs

[MHS831]

50 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Ward and Sanders are really mid first to mid second round guys in a stronger class.

 

And I translate that to a group of QBs If you eliminate the top 15 picks, that have a pretty low success rate as day 1 starters.  That is why, in my view, these bridge QBs are probably going to go to teams that also draft a QB. If you have to sign a veteran mentor and develop your QB for a year, why not just wait a year and draft some pieces to go around the eventual QB?  I think I'd rather have a Geno Smith and Will Howard than Shedeur Sanders under center day 1.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

And I translate that to a group of QBs If you eliminate the top 15 picks, that have a pretty low success rate as day 1 starters.  That is why, in my view, these bridge QBs are probably going to go to teams that also draft a QB. If you have to sign a veteran mentor and develop your QB for a year, why not just wait a year and draft some pieces to go around the eventual QB?  I think I'd rather have a Geno Smith and Will Howard than Shedeur Sanders under center day 1.

I think that's possible but the odds of any of those QB's outside Ward/Sanders being more than backups is very, very low IMO.

Worst class since 2022.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that's possible but the odds of any of those QB's outside Ward/Sanders being more than backups is very, very low IMO.

Worst class since 2022.

We shall see, but this QB group is bad.  When the #1 overall pick has nothing at QB and they are in trade talks, that tells you something.  In 2034, I will look back at the QB group and I am willing to bet that either all of them busted or the most successful was not Ward or Sanders.  Not to say that I would not gamble on Ward because I am wrong about QBs a lot, but my common sense tells me that if I am going to gamble on a QB this year, do it in round 2 and beyond. 

I am just looking forward to free agency and the dust that settles afterwards.  Then we will have a better idea--but I think there are teams that like Ewers, Howard, Dart, and maybe a few others--not sure about Milroe---but the odds are against them ever starting.  Of course, you have your Bradys, Purdys. Wilsons, Cousins, etc. and I have a hunch that one in that "second tier" group.  A lot of these guys are transfers in the new portal turnstiles--and I know how confusing it is for a QB to learn a new system with new personnel.  I watch for the moment the light seems to have come on and judge from that point.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

We shall see, but this QB group is bad.  When the #1 overall pick has nothing at QB and they are in trade talks, that tells you something.  In 2034, I will look back at the QB group and I am willing to bet that either all of them busted or the most successful was not Ward or Sanders.  Not to say that I would not gamble on Ward because I am wrong about QBs a lot, but my common sense tells me that if I am going to gamble on a QB this year, do it in round 2 and beyond. 

I am just looking forward to free agency and the dust that settles afterwards.  Then we will have a better idea--but I think there are teams that like Ewers, Howard, Dart, and maybe a few others--not sure about Milroe---but the odds are against them ever starting.  Of course, you have your Bradys, Purdys. Wilsons, Cousins, etc. and I have a hunch that one in that "second tier" group.  A lot of these guys are transfers in the new portal turnstiles--and I know how confusing it is for a QB to learn a new system with new personnel.  I watch for the moment the light seems to have come on and judge from that point.

I think Sanders has a very good shot at being a middle of the pack or slightly above NFL starter for a long time. Ward it just depends on what end of the gunslinger scale he falls on. Is he on the Favre/Winston end or the Mayfield/Stafford end?

[Basbear]

So no one here predicted Geno being traded to Raiders?!??!?

 

 

YOU BUNCH OF FRAUDS!!!11!!!!

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, Basbear said:

So no one here predicted Geno being traded to Raiders?!??!?

 

 

YOU BUNCH OF FRAUDS!!!11!!!!

I don’t even remember him being traded as recent speculation by media outlets. I think that was fairly surprising.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don’t even remember him being traded as recent speculation by media outlets. I think that was fairly surprising.

 100%

Im just in here busting balls is all. No one across the league thought geno would be traded and not to the raiders. 

All I read was Seattle was offering 35-40 per in a new deal and geno didn't agree and asked to be traded right after. Within a couple days he was traded to LV before it leaked he was on the block. 

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 100%

Im just in here busting balls is all. No one across the league thought geno would be traded and not to the raiders. 

All I read was Seattle was offering 35-40 per in a new deal and geno didn't agree and asked to be traded right after. Within a couple days he was traded to LV before it leaked he was on the block. 

I mean, I guess in fairness to Geno I would be pissed about being valued less than Prescott, Love, Lawrence, Tua, Goff, Murray, Watson and Cousins.

In fairness to Seattle, I don't think I would want to have a $45+ mil Smith on my roster.

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, I guess in fairness to Geno I would be pissed about being valued less than Prescott, Love, Lawrence, Tua, Goff, Murray, Watson and Cousins.

In fairness to Seattle, I don't think I would want to have a $45+ mil Smith on my roster.

 

Yes it seems Geno took it as they didn't value him and wanted out. For me, he is very hard to place a value on. I still remember he had great run in either 22 or 23, he was top 3 in MVP voting and its mid season. He dropped to earth some, but still he looked way better than 2021 Wilson . 

 

NGL, before BY got in forward gear, I was thinking about Geno to Panthers in some way....this was before Dave came abroad. 

 

I know there is talk about Sam Darnold, Ive also heard they love Sam hollwitzer. 

 

I also heard Seattle wanted to move on from Geno and Pete stood by him, they wanted a full rebuild deal. Then the new builder HC got there and couldn't move Geno, when into the season and "fell" back into love with Geno........mid-QB pay love it seems. It's odd how its playing out. 

They may be in the market for a trade up in order to draft Sanders, rumor mill is out of control in south Alaska.... 

[Captain Morgan]

Saints are restructuring Carr.....he will be their qb next year.  kicked the can down the road again.  two void years  2027 and 28 with over 40 mill in dead cap

 

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/03/saints-restructuring-qb-derek-carrs-contract

[UnluckyforSome]

I think Dart looked/performed better than he was, within Kiffen's EZ QB system. He shouldn't be a 1st rounder but some foolish team will probably take him anyway.