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Inception talk - Spoilers inside - Do not read if you have not seen...

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I just saw it tonight. I think he is awake. If I remember correctly the top isn't even his totem. It was his wife's totem that he gave her and started carrying around after she killed herself, so the top doesn't even matter. His totem is actually his wedding ring. He wears the ring in the dream scenes, but isn't wearing the ring in the scenes that take place in reality, such as the scene where his wife kills herself, and he isn't wearing it in the end so that makes me this he is in reality.

I think that's besides the point though. When he spins the top he is either checking for reality or reminiscing about his wife, but the point is that he turns away to his kids quickly after spinning the thing and moved on from dwelling on his wife's death and has chosen to accept the moment as reality rather than question it.

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So what do you think, is he awake or asleep at the end?

It bothers me that you never saw the top stop spinning in the bathroom in the basement of the indian guy's place of business. I think he may have been asleep from that point on.

I know that was driving me crazy for a good 10 mins and I let the thought distract me, eventually I had to stop focusing on trying to figure it out and just let the movie come to me.

I'm not sure it really matters.

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I just saw it tonight. I think he is awake. If I remember correctly the top isn't even his totem. It was his wife's totem that he gave her and started carrying around after she killed herself, so the top doesn't even matter. His totem is actually his wedding ring. He wears the ring in the dream scenes, but isn't wearing the ring in the scenes that take place in reality, such as the scene where his wife kills herself, and he isn't wearing it in the end so that makes me this he is in reality.

I think that's besides the point though. When he spins the top he is either checking for reality or reminiscing about his wife, but the point is that he turns away to his kids quickly after spinning the thing and moved on from dwelling on his wife's death and has chosen to accept the moment as reality rather than question it.

I agree with all of this, except that's what makes me think he's still asleep. His kids were in the exact same position wearing the exact same clothing from all of his dreams when he came home? And Cobb's father just happened to be at the airport (having to fly from France) to meet him, being that Cobb just hopped on a last minute flight from Sydney to Australia? It came together too perfectly at the end to be reality.

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Saw it last night, totally blown away. Loved every second of it, and I can't wait to see it a second time.

I just have to say that Nolan is a brilliant director, and the final scene is a perfect illustration. Just thinking back to the theater. 150 people watching a top spinning, not knowing what to expect, but the outcome of the top spinning totally changes the meaning of the film. And when the screen goes black, the whole crowd groans in disappointment of not knowing wheter a top fell over or was still turning. That's pretty damned impressive.

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One thing I'd like to go back and check is to see if there is any text in the dreams. I head that you can't read in your dream because you're not using the hemisphere responsible for that.

So if Leo can read in the end then that would mean he's awake?

Keep in mind I'm getting this all from a Batman cartoon I watched as a kid. Batman got placed in a dream and he figured out he was in it when he couldn't read. So he killed himself and beat the bad guy as always.

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One thing I'd like to go back and check is to see if there is any text in the dreams. I head that you can't read in your dream because you're not using the hemisphere responsible for that.

So if Leo can read in the end then that would mean he's awake?

Keep in mind I'm getting this all from a Batman cartoon I watched as a kid. Batman got placed in a dream and he figured out he was in it when he couldn't read. So he killed himself and beat the bad guy as always.

i'm not sure how close to real dreaming Nolan wrote this thing. he portrayed them as rigid, real-life settings that are so structured and architectual and unchanging that any little twist throws off your subconscious and makes it freak out.

mine are the opposite of that. ethereal and unstructured. my subconscious wouldn't know if something was 'changed' because my dreams are undetailed and gossamer.

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I had to go to Michigan for my grandmothers funeral and decided to catch the movie at the imax with my bro. Great movie. I've read through this thread and am still questioning parts of the movie. I'm not sure how relevant the top spinning in the end is because it wasn't even his piece. I love how its a few days later and I am still thinking about the movie. We took my 14 yr. old nephew with us and he was clueless the whole movie.

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