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18 hours ago, Shocker said:

I think I will be very disappointed if we don’t draft Walker as this point.  He is exactly what we need IMO.

 

 

18 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I think we’re taking Mykell Williams 

 

I believe there's two plans for the panthers.

Plan A- land a BY type of haul for a trade back.

OR

Plan B- Draft a georgia dog at 8. 

 

 

Disaster Plan no trade back and no georgia dog. 

Draft either Tmac or Tyler Warren

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

 

 

I believe there's two plans for the panthers.

Plan A- land a BY type of haul for a trade back.

OR

Plan B- Draft a georgia dog at 8. 

 

 

Disaster Plan no trade back and no georgia dog. 

Draft either Tmac or Tyler Warren

Brother, there is no BY haul for a #8 pick. That is pure delusional thought.

 

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9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Brother, there is no BY haul for a #8 pick. That is pure delusional thought.

 

Yeah when the Chicago Bears are a more well run organization there isn't anything left to say. And this after the recent things I've read about the Bears from former players only adds salt to the wound.

Still. I hope those fugers flounder. Yeah I'm petty 🤷‍♂️

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23 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Brother, there is no BY haul for a #8 pick. That is pure delusional thought.

 

 

"type" of haul.

I think there's a 1st, 2-3rd this year and future 1st 2-3rd. That's the BY package minus DJ Moore. 

If Steelers believe in either dart or Sanders, it would be worth it for them. They always draft in the 20s and sorta stuck in 10 win playoff 1st round playoff exit zone... No QB and they just might as well go all-in after the DK trade. 

FYI George Pickens is heavily rumored to be traded.... it worked out Soo well for the Panthers the last WR trade...

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12 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

"type" of haul.

I think there's a 1st, 2-3rd this year and future 1st 2-3rd. That's the BY package minus DJ Moore. 

If Steelers believe in either dart or Sanders, it would be worth it for them. They always draft in the 20s and sorta stuck in 10 win playoff 1st round playoff exit zone... No QB and they just might as well go all-in after the DK trade. 

FYI George Pickens is heavily rumored to be traded.... it worked out Soo well for the Panthers the last WR trade...

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Seems like just about everyone is locking in on Walker to us. I don't hate it at all but I do worry about the scenario where he goes earlier. I just hope we have a reasonable backup plan.

The only team that may take Walker before us is the Jags.  I REALLY hope so because that means Graham likely falls to us.  Taking Walker over Graham makes no sense to me.  The Raiders and Jets are going offense.  

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16 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

"type" of haul.

I think there's a 1st, 2-3rd this year and future 1st 2-3rd. That's the BY package minus DJ Moore. 

If Steelers believe in either dart or Sanders, it would be worth it for them. They always draft in the 20s and sorta stuck in 10 win playoff 1st round playoff exit zone... No QB and they just might as well go all-in after the DK trade. 

FYI George Pickens is heavily rumored to be traded.... it worked out Soo well for the Panthers the last WR trade...

I would be SHOCKED if we got that type of offer for #8.

Keep in mind, per the (admittedly imperfect) draft pick value chart, #1 is worth over double #8 (3000 vs. 1400). It is very much an apples vs. oranges comparison.

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17 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

"type" of haul.

I think there's a 1st, 2-3rd this year and future 1st 2-3rd. That's the BY package minus DJ Moore. 

If Steelers believe in either dart or Sanders, it would be worth it for them. They always draft in the 20s and sorta stuck in 10 win playoff 1st round playoff exit zone... No QB and they just might as well go all-in after the DK trade. 

FYI George Pickens is heavily rumored to be traded.... it worked out Soo well for the Panthers the last WR trade...

won't be that much.  Huge difference between trading to 1 than 8.

21 to 8 is about 600 points.

9 to 1 is about 1650.

 

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2 hours ago, AU-panther said:

won't be that much.  Huge difference between trading to 1 than 8.

21 to 8 is about 600 points.

9 to 1 is about 1650.

 

Some similar trades that have taken place:

  • 2019 - PIT trades #20, #52, and a 2020 third-round pick to DEN for #10 to select Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
  • 2021 - CHI trades #20, 2022 first-rounder, 2021 fifth-rounder, and a 2022 fourth-rounder to NYG for #11 to select Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
  • 2022 - NO trades #18, #101, #237, 2023 first-round pick, and 2024 second-round pick to PHI for #16, #19, and #194. They then traded #16, #98, and #120 to WAS to move up to #11 and select Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State (WAS took Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State at #16)
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