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Fox Says Jake Will Most Likely Start in 2009

Cass4Carolina

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I love how much people want to point to the 2007 season without jake, did we not finish 7-9? Not bad for a team that was rotating 4 different qbs, including a retired 40 something year old, and an undrafted rookie who won us some games. So while our record wasn't great we didn't have a set starter either. We had multiple short term fixes. If we went and got a QB that we planned on using as our starter and that player went through training camp and all i'm sure he could pull out a decent season as well, hell we are a run first time and we run the ball just fine. However when we need to go to the air we have to rely on our receiver more then our qb. just a thought

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jake is the type of guy that will work harder than anyone to be better next season.

it still blows me away that people think jake can actually get better. there was a reason he wasn't drafted, a reason he played behind KW in NFLE, a reason he was a backup on the saints... he's not a consistent QB and really not all that good.

anytime i see jake make a throw like he did in SD to start the season, i think to myself, "exception, not the rule". he TOO often throws short, behind, high, low and very rarely right on target where the receiver can catch it on the run w/o making adjustments (and thus being caught immediately be the defense).

someone said he's not a game changer; i disagree. he's definitely a game changer, but not in the good kind of way.

we all bitch that jarrett can't run routes or hackett can't get open ad nauseum. i think the problem is jake couldn't hit the barn side of a broad on nine of ten throws. he is woefully inaccurate which contrary to the belief on this board is the most important job of the QB; get the ball on time, on target to the right receiver.

i'm not denying that jake has great intangibles or that he's a good leader, but that's not the point. the point is he's not very good at what he's meant to do; throw the ball.

i doubt somehow that having an accurate, yet *less vocal* QB, would mean the team would support whoever it is less. they'll support whomever can go out there, do there job well and not single handedly lose a game for them. say what you will but six turnovers is insurmountable. i dont give a rats ass if the defense is playing lights out. you can't turn the ball over SIX times and expect to win.

we need an upgrade or if that's not available the coaches need to make the position open to competition and not simply hand the reins off to someone simply because they've been the starter (a la deshaun foster).

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Like it or not, right now Jake gives us the best chance of winning. I hope training camp has open competition for the starting QB, but even if it does I bet Jake wins the job fairly.

Maybe next year Davidson will focus more on the running game and scheme to Jake's strengths like Henning did.

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he might prove the people wrong who think hes gonna have a good year. If you watched him play all year, like others have said his passes have been off. If you want him gone just based on last night alone, then no. But if you have seen him all year, you will see how many over throws, or off passes he has. If we didn't have the outstanding recievers we did he would have even worse numbers. Sooner or later they are going to have to address this situation if they want to make any progress.

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he might prove the people wrong who think hes gonna have a good year. If you watched him play all year, like others have said his passes have been off. If you want him gone just based on last night alone, then no. But if you have seen him all year, you will see how many over throws, or off passes he has. If we didn't have the outstanding recievers we did he would have even worse numbers. Sooner or later they are going to have to address this situation if they want to make any progress.

I don't believe that Jake's performace this season warrants him being released from the Panthers. For the most part, he was solid...not spectacular or outstanding, but solid. Only 7 other teams made it as far as the Panthers did - that says something.

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I don't believe that Jake's performace this season warrants him being released from the Panthers. For the most part, he was solid...not spectacular or outstanding, but solid. Only 7 other teams made it as far as the Panthers did - that says something.

Another point to bring up is that he's going to be making top 5-6 QB money next year.

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I'm convinced that we have the team that we need in order to win a Superbowl (with the expection of some adjustments in the secondary).

From what I've observed, football isn't always so black and white. It's a game where anything can happen. The most talented team doesn't always win. You can change your roster from now until kingdom come, but as John Fox would say, "It is what it is."

Sometimes being talented and playing hard isn't all it takes to win a game. If it's not in the cards for your team, it's not gonna happen. I hate to say that it's "fate", but that's the closest concept I can think of to explain what I'm trying to say. Whenever we lose everyone wants to fire the whole team and start all over again...that's not going to change anything. I'm disappointed, but proud of our season and am very hopeful and look forward to next season...WITH Jake.

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If I remember correctly there were a couple "big games" that we had to win this season in order to even get to to the playoffs.

Holy crap you have no idea what you are talking about, ROFL.

We were the #2 seed, the #6 seed was 9-6-1, we were 12-4.

So please tell me how "there were a couple of big games we HAD to win this season in order to even get to the playoffs."

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Holy crap you have no idea what you are talking about, ROFL.

We were the #2 seed, the #6 seed was 9-6-1, we were 12-4.

So please tell me how "there were a couple of big games we HAD to win this season in order to even get to the playoffs."

Then I proved my point. Take away only 2 or 3 of our wins and we wouldn't even made the playoffs. All the whole regular season is is one long playoff round. Last time I checked, you have to have a certain record to even be eligible for the playoffs...had we lost only 2 - 3 more games than we did, we wouldn't have even been playing last night. Those are the games we HAD TO WIN in order to even get to the playoffs.

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