Canales on TE spot from Char observer

[Khyber53]

If Tyler's there at 8, sprint to the podium, take him and roll on.

Of not, go back to taking the best DE in the draft.

[CarolinaLivin]

9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

If Tyler's there at 8, sprint to the podium, take him and roll on.

Of not, go back to taking the best DE in the draft.

I'm not out on warren, i mean i wouldn't love it. I would like the selection of warren more in a trade-back scenario. And i would be very surprised if he isn't there at 8. I get this isn't a star studded draft like last year which resulted in a super talent like bowers dropping to the teens, but im not so sure that is the best selection we could make at 8. Surely, I could be wrong here. Maybe i'll feel better about it after FA, but i'm just not so sure we'll bring in these big name FAs we've been looking at or hearing rumors about. Still, I wouldn't hate the pick, just wouldn't be hyped up about it. 

[1989]

14 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

Warren could be the pick

Wouldn’t hate it.

[shaqattaq]

16 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

This team hasn't done any sort of smokecreen under Tepper. Under Tepper where there has been smoke, there's been fire.

True...the whole damn world knew that we were going after Legette last year.

[jayboogieman]

20 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

True...the whole damn world knew that we were going after Legette last year.

And Young when he was drafted.

[shaqattaq]

15 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you should care, thats the exact point.  There is something called analytics, odds, past history etc that lay out quite clearly that taking a TE in the first much less in the goddamn top 10 is fuging moronic and pans out about 5% of the time if that

[Gapanthersfan]

If Brock Bowers who obliterated virtually every measurable category, has won every ‘I’m the f-in man’ award at every level, and was touted correctly, as the best TE prospect EVER,  went 13th (yes I know, coming off an injury) …. For God’s sake. 

Hard pass at 8. D line BPA. Please. 

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

If Brock Bowers who obliterated virtually every measurable category, has won every ‘I’m the f-in man’ award at every level, and was touted correctly, as the best TE prospect EVER,  went 13th (yes I know, coming off an injury) …. For God’s sake. 

Hard pass at 8. D line BPA. Please. 

actually kyle pitts was rated higher.  Which leans in even more to your point

[Bear Hands]

I wouldn’t mind Mason Taylor in R2/3 if there (Jason Taylor’s kid). After Warren/Loveland, Taylor brings a lot of what Dave is describing and apparently teams are just smitten with him.

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

I'm not out on warren, i mean i wouldn't love it. I would like the selection of warren more in a trade-back scenario. And i would be very surprised if he isn't there at 8. I get this isn't a star studded draft like last year which resulted in a super talent like bowers dropping to the teens, but im not so sure that is the best selection we could make at 8. Surely, I could be wrong here. Maybe i'll feel better about it after FA, but i'm just not so sure we'll bring in these big name FAs we've been looking at or hearing rumors about. Still, I wouldn't hate the pick, just wouldn't be hyped up about it. 

Okay, I understand. I originally was defense only because, well, it's frikkin obvious we need it. He's literally the only offensive player I'd take first, simply because of how he could vastly improve our entire offense. That's why I've been pounding on the table for him to be our pick... I really believe this guy is going to be a generational talent at the position.

Also, look at the defensive depth in this class, particularly on the line and at LB. I think we can make this move to give Bryce that extra tool in the bag AND still improve on a defense that needs to get younger AND more aggressive. 

[Gapanthersfan]

24 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

actually kyle pitts was rated higher.  Which leans in even more to your point

For some reason I thought I remember hearing BB was in his own class. 

I remember the Pitts train. 

[CarolinaLivin]

12 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Okay, I understand. I originally was defense only because, well, it's frikkin obvious we need it. He's literally the only offensive player I'd take first, simply because of how he could vastly improve our entire offense. That's why I've been pounding on the table for him to be our pick... I really believe this guy is going to be a generational talent at the position.

Also, look at the defensive depth in this class, particularly on the line and at LB. I think we can make this move to give Bryce that extra tool in the bag AND still improve on a defense that needs to get younger AND more aggressive. 

Sure there is a lot of depth at DL in the draft but if we take warren at 8, we are almost certainly going to trade up our 2nd after a run on DL in the first and possibly another run in the second. Plus our poor late round drafting makes me worry. I mean I agree that a lot of these guys make our defense better, but I just don't know if we are competent enough to get the late round gems. Last year was a deep draft at WR both at the top and depth, we took XL with likely more talented WR's on the board. Obviously its too early to judge XL, but with what we know right now I just worry about how we navigate through drafts. 

 

But I do agree with you somewhat. I wouldn't hate the pick of warren. Just wouldn't love it. I'd have to grade it based off our entire draft rather than just loving our 1st round pick. If that makes sense.

Edited 2 hours ago by CarolinaLivin

[AceMan]

17 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

This team hasn't done any sort of smokecreen under Tepper. Under Tepper where there has been smoke, there's been fire.

 

17 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/xavier-legette-reveals-what-panthers-told-him-about-pick-33

oof

“I’ve met with the Panthers about four or five times. The relationship, it just keep continuing to grow. They really hoping that I can make it to the second round. They keep on telling me if I’m sitting at (pick) 33, they’re going to take me.”

 

I get Morgan and DC were green last year but come on man, you know better then this

 

Can we sticky both these posts??

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

For some reason I thought I remember hearing BB was in his own class. 

I remember the Pitts train. 

he was rated in the 7's which is basically cant miss/elite, whoopsie

 

Again which proves your point even more