Raymond Felton for David Lee is a realistic possibility

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

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In the meantime, the Knicks will continue searching for a pick-and-roll partner for Stoudemire to operate with -- and if it isn't James, free-agent point guard Raymond Felton will be a primary target. The Knicks have had discussions about a sign-and- trade for Felton that would involve their own free-agent power forward, David Lee, a person with knowledge of the talks said Monday. But the Bobcats are lukewarm on such a proposal for the same reason they've had zero conversations with Felton's agent, Tony Dutt, about re-signing him -- the luxury-tax implications. But don't rule out such a scenario yet; a person with close ties to Felton said Monday that the Bobcats point guard is intrigued by the possibility of pairing with Stoudemire in coach Mike D'Antoni's triple-threat, pick-and-roll offense.

Source: CBSSports.com

[BF91]

We're not getting David Lee. The contracts in a sign-and-trade wouldn't match up, there's no reason for David Lee to want to be a Bobcat, and David Lee is NOT a center. Let Tyrus Thomas start at PF and we'll get similar offensive production and a much better defender. David Lee would get eaten alive at center, and anybody that thinks otherwise is a damn fool.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

We're not getting David Lee. The contracts in a sign-and-trade wouldn't match up, there's no reason for David Lee to want to be a Bobcat, and David Lee is NOT a center. Let Tyrus Thomas start at PF and we'll get similar offensive production and a much better defender. David Lee would get eaten alive at center, and anybody that thinks otherwise is a damn fool.

David Lee is a Center that is the position he plays and David Lee for Raymond Felton will work it has already been discussed. I have checked it out.

You act like we are over the Cap, we are not, we are not even over the luxury cap we are 2 mil behind and with an incoming player in a sign and trade we can sign him for as much as we want it doesn't matter.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

d lee is a double-double machine. puts out effort, which is rare.

nba must have new rules. all players now must be above 6'8" in order to play. b cats rule!!!!111!!!!!

ellis >>>>> felton

This is true but Monta Ellis was traded away by the Knicks it would be stupid to trade for. That is like a slap in the face to a franchise. It's like saying I was wrong we shouldn't have traded you, except it is being said to the entire world.

[BF91]

David Lee is a Center that is the position he plays and David Lee for Raymond Felton will work it has already been discussed. I have checked it out.

You act like we are over the Cap, we are not, we are not even over the luxury cap we are 2 mil behind and with an incoming player in a sign and trade we can sign him for as much as we want it doesn't matter.

David Lee is as much of a center as Boris Diaw is. Just because he's lined up against some centers, doesn't mean he's one himself. Lee is the exact same height as Tyrus Thomas. Would you want someone Thomas' size being our everyday center? Hell no, he's a forward, he's listed as a forward, and he plays power forward.

And we are over the cap. Right now our payroll (including ~$6MM for Thomas, which may end up being a very low estimate) is ~$66MM. That's around $1MM under the projected luxury tax and $8MM over the projected salary cap. We're in a horrible cap situation. Do any research and you'll find that out.

[cdandi1]

this whole tyrus thomas and david lee comparison is ridiculous. Two completely different styles. Thomas is long and relies completely on athletic ability. Lee is larger with a skill set concentrated on low post position and fundamentals. Lee would make us a better team over felton. Don't get me wrong, idk if Lee can necessarily "bang" with Howard, but idk if there is anyone in the league outside of Andrew Bynum or Perkins who can.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

David Lee is as much of a center as Boris Diaw is. Just because he's lined up against some centers, doesn't mean he's one himself. Lee is the exact same height as Tyrus Thomas. Would you want someone Thomas' size being our everyday center? Hell no, he's a forward, he's listed as a forward, and he plays power forward.

And we are over the cap. Right now our payroll (including ~$6MM for Thomas, which may end up being a very low estimate) is ~$66MM. That's around $1MM under the projected luxury tax and $8MM over the projected salary cap. We're in a horrible cap situation. Do any research and you'll find that out.

For sign and trade it doesn't matter I looked it up. Once the player is traded you can sign him for how ever much the team wants. Pantherfan49 already told you that in the Tyson Chandler/Mavs thread.

Pantherfan49- The finances don't have to work out in offseason trades. I suspect that the Bobs would take just about anything to dump TC's contract. A future 1st round pick would probably get it done.

[BF91]

For sign and trade it doesn't matter I looked it up. Once the player is traded you can sign him for how ever much the team wants. Pantherfan49 already told you that in the Tyson Chandler/Mavs thread.

It doesn't matter now, but it sure as hell will at the end of the season when MJ will have to pay the luxury tax. Lee is going to be looking for something near the maximum salary which he's not worth, especially since we have Thomas on board. And yes, PF49 did tell me that in the Mavs thread, but that's in reference to the fact that since we're over the cap, we can only add payroll as long as its less than 125% of what we're sending plus $100K. We'll have the opportunity to get under the luxury tax by the trade deadline, but why would we take that risk when we already have a PF that's can be Lee's equal if he's given a starting job?

David Lee does not fit with the Bobcats. He doesn't fit financially, and he doesn't fit from a personnel standpoint.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

It doesn't matter now, but it sure as hell will at the end of the season when MJ will have to pay the luxury tax. Lee is going to be looking for something near the maximum salary which he's not worth, especially since we have Thomas on board. And yes, PF49 did tell me that in the Mavs thread, but that's in reference to the fact that since we're over the cap, we can only add payroll as long as its less than 125% of what we're sending plus $100K. We'll have the opportunity to get under the luxury tax by the trade deadline, but why would we take that risk when we already have a PF that's can be Lee's equal if he's given a starting job?

David Lee does not fit with the Bobcats. He doesn't fit financially, and he doesn't fit from a personnel standpoint.

He can play the Center position. He played the Center position with the NYK's and did a damn good job. He has a 7ft wing span and a standing reach of 9 feet tall. But the deciding factor is his 34 inch vertical and his very impressive box out abilities. Which is why he was 3rd in the NBA in rebounds per game with 11.7.

[cdandi1]

we can all agree...he is a much, much, much better option at C than Chandler, Nazi or Theo. Put him at the 5 with Nazi coming off the bench would be solid. Hell, maybe even toss Ajinca in for some work with lee at pf.

[BF91]

He can play the Center position. He played the Center position with the NYK's and did a damn good job. He has a 7ft wing span and a standing reach of 9 feet tall. But the deciding factor is his 34 inch vertical and his very impressive box out abilities. Which is why he was 3rd in the NBA in rebounds per game with 11.7.

He played center for the Knicks more out of necessity than anything else. Darko, Eddy Curry, and Earl Barron were the only centers on the team, so D'Antoni decided to go with Gallinari and Lee down low. Its kind of like our situation with Jackson and Wallace. Jackson is a SF, but he played SG for us out of necessity. He may not have been a SG, but he was our best option. The same applies for Lee. Any team looking to acquire him is planning to use him as a PF.

I'm not trying to hate on Lee, but I really believe a lot of his production is because he's a good player on a bad team. He's by far their best scorer and rebounder, a big fish in a small pond if you will. He was also with a coach that puts offense at a huge premium. I'm not saying he's not a good player, because he is, but I don't think he'll be as productive on a better team because he won't be the go-to guy.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Honestly, I think he is the best the Cats can do this year. I really don't like our center or point guard situation as of right now but I think getting rid of Chandler for Terry and using then signing and trading Felton for Lee would be a good start. Hell, and if there is room sign Louis Amundson, now I am just getting stingy.

[pdandy1994]

well apparently we play against the Magic every night and have to face Dwight Howard so OMG WE CANT GET LEE, DWIGHT HOWARD WILL EAT HIS ASS EVERY NIGHT, WAH WAH WAH

id take David Lee over the scrubs we have now.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

well apparently we play against the Magic every night and have to face Dwight Howard so OMG WE CANT GET LEE, DWIGHT HOWARD WILL EAT HIS ASS EVERY NIGHT, WAH WAH WAH

id take David Lee over the scrubs we have now.

Haha, thats my point.