So, who's winning the heavyweight title fight?

[Woodie]

So many people are talking about how Carwin gassed, but the reality is that he didn’t seem to understand that this was a five round championship fight, not a one rounder. Every champion will tell you that you have to pace yourself in these fights. You can’t shoot your wad right off the bat because then you have nothing left if you don’t put your opponent away. You can blame reffing all you want, but when all is said and done, you have to be prepared to fight a long, drawn out war, and Carwin wasn’t. While it was obvious that his gameplan was to swarm Brock and put him away early, he had no backup plan in case that didn’t work. And as a result, he’ll have to work his way back up the ranks to get another shot.

[Woodie]

can you really say that with a straight face after he literally ran away from Carwin?

Umm, no, he was escaping a situation that was not favorable to him in order to buy time and re-group. That’s actually what pretty much every smart fighter will do in that situation.

[Woodie]

curling up in a fetal position is not intelligently defending, even if you put your hands over your face. have you ever even watched mma before?

There’s a big difference between turtleing up and using your hands to defend yourself. Brock was active, and constantly moving to try and block Carwin’s punches (which he actually did a very good job of, for the most part), and he used his legs to try and push Carwin away to get some distance between them. He didn’t curl up and stop moving while covering his head and face, which basically is what turtleing up is. And another term for turtleing is giving up, or quitting. No doubt that Shane was controlling what Brock could do with his barrage, but within those confines, Brock did what he could to protect himself…and he most certainly did not give up or quit. In fact, that he was able to stand up at the end of the round is a testament to that.

[Henne Given Sunday]

carwin was like that guy at the party who is pounding shots and shot gunning beers at 9pm......everyone else is talking, playing beer pong, and taking their time......by 11pm carwin is passed out poo faced, dick in the dirt, getting penises drawn on his face, and his eyebrows shaved off from everyone else who are just now getting bombed....

so yea.....carwin has a metaphorical dick drawn on his face.

[rodeo]

Did you just google his name or did you actually read any of the reports?

Cause pretty much everything I have read on him is talking about how he did a great job not getting ahead of himself and stopping the fight too soon.

Maybe you can find a story on Carwinfanboy#1.com that will say otherwise.

hhahahaahahaha. bullshit. you just googled and found the first result from bloodyelbows and decided that's what they all say. most of them are pondering that he should've stopped the fight.

[Snake]

hhahahaahahaha. bullsh*t. you just googled and found the first result from bloodyelbows and decided that's what they all say. most of them are pondering that he should've stopped the fight.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=mmajunkie-UFC_116_main_card_recap

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Live+coverage+from+Vegas+Brock+Lesnar+Shane+Carwin/3233351/story.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/415287-ufc-116-recap-beating-brock-lesnar-can-it-be-done

http://www.wpxi.com/sports/24136585/detail.html

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/07/04/ufc-116-brock-lesnar-submits-shane-carwin/

All these people seem to think your wrong..... But Im sure that not enough to stop you from being butt hurt.

[Jbro]

The rematch will happen soon. Cain vs. Brock is tentatively at UFC 119 (Oct.) So assuming Brock wins the rematch should be around Fed.

[Snake]

The rematch will happen soon. Cain vs. Brock is tentatively at UFC 119 (Oct.) So assuming Brock wins the rematch should be around Fed.

Really if Brock Beats Cain I could not see it any other way. I mean my top 3 Heavyweights are Lesnar,Carwin, and Velasquez. I will be pulling for Cain when they meet but Im not sure if he can beat Brock. He has beat everyone but Carwin but Im still not sure. After those guys though its just avg talent.

[Jbro]

Dos Santos is only average?

[Snake]

Dos Santos is only average?

As good as he is the above mentioned is better. Frank Mir and Junior Dos Santos are about on the same level to me. I mean you could argue Cain with me and yea it would be hard to say what makes him better then Dos Santos. The Reason I say he is better is because he has fought more fights in the UFC and has not lost. Its like me saying Forest Griffen is avg. Yea he is a great fighter but he is not Evans,Machida,or Rua.

[rodeo]

i think JDS is a bit overrated. just throws wild punches and has landed a few good KOs, but he lacks technique and can't rely on getting in a good shot every fight. he is a worse boxer than Carwin with less power.

Cain is a great fighter but he is way undersized and he doesn't have a ton of KO power. he is a really good wrestler, but Brock is so much bigger that i think he'll get dominated.

the only guy, in my opinion, who will touch Lesnar is Carwin.

[Wanderlai]

Dana said the upcoming Dos Santos vs Roy Nelson fight winner is next in line after Cain gets his shot. Carwin will have to win a couple of fights before a rematch. He should be able to do it though. I imagine Carwin next fights Big Nog, or CroCop. I don't want to him fight Mir again since they fought not that long ago.

[rodeo]

Carwin vs. Big Nog would be a pooty fight. but at least it would get Shane back into the 40 second KO habit.

to me it makes more sense to have the winner of JDS/Nelson fight Carwin, then that winner get a title shot.

[Snake]

i think JDS is a bit overrated. just throws wild punches and has landed a few good KOs, but he lacks technique and can't rely on getting in a good shot every fight. he is a worse boxer than Carwin with less power.

Cain is a great fighter but he is way undersized and he doesn't have a ton of KO power. he is a really good wrestler, but Brock is so much bigger that i think he'll get dominated.

the only guy, in my opinion, who will touch Lesnar is Carwin.

I really doubt Carwin will beat Brock. Next time Brock will just put him on the mat to start with. I mean its the same old story that people said with Mir. Carwin while a great striker is far from polished on the ground and Lesnar is prob one of the best. Brock had never seen a striker like Carwin but now he has and next time will be that much better defending it. As for Cain I dont get how people say he dose not have KO power when 4 of his last 5 fights have been TKO. It only took him 2:20 to KO Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira. Given he def is not a first round machine like Carwin but he puts people out quite a bit.